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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of lenron brown Sent: Thursday, 12 September 2019 5:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Was anyone disappointed with Apple? That's 2900 I would keep in my pocket if I had it. Especially if I had no real need to upgrade. On 9/11/19, Simon A Fogarty <[email protected]> wrote: > Now it's interesting you bring this up because 9 times out of 10 my > phone is sittinbg onb a desk or table etc so I have to pick it up to > unlock it with face id or type in the pin to unlock it. > > What I wondered was if you could use your hand rather than fce id to > unlock the phone? > > So if your phone is lying on a table and you need to unlock it, Could > you wake it by tapping on the screen, > > Then place your hand over / above the phone screen so the phone reads > your palm and should therefore I wonder unlock? > > Why could this not work? > > I might have to try it when I get a new phone? -----Original > Message----- > From: [email protected] > <[email protected]> On Behalf Of lenron brown > Sent: Thursday, 12 September 2019 6:19 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Was anyone disappointed with Apple? > > When I said this people told me I just didn't like change. I don't > have a problem with change, I just really hate face id. Touch Id works > pretty much every time I use it. Unless my hands are wet or something. > > On 9/11/19, Mika Pyyhkala <[email protected]> wrote: >> Ever since I got the iPhone 10S, I've thought of going back to the >> iPhone 8 for touch id. >> >> While I can use Face id, I think on balance touch id is quicker and >> more efficient. >> >> It is hard to say on the 2019 models how much better the face id >> angles will be. >> >> You really have to move the phone pretty far away to get it to >> register with face id, and you can't do this when the phone is in >> your pocket. >> >> Its possible, but hard to believe, if VO users could be absolutely >> 100% as quick and efficient with the face id as the touch id. I mean >> of course it works, but we're maybe talking about saving 1 second or >> lesss in the unlock interaction or the interaction to log in to an >> app or authenticate something with touch id vs. face id. >> >> I would say at least a few to several times a day with touch id, I >> have to do the retry. It has improved since I got it, and most of >> the time when I do the retry it works. This is usually logging in to >> an app, etc. >> >> But with touch id it was much more rare that I would ever have to do >> a retry. >> >> The touch id was such a more natural feeling experience and it just >> worked nearly 99% of the time. >> >> I've gotten more used to the home button gestures and they don't >> bother me as much but if I had to I would say I prefer the old school >> home button. I did find the virtual home button worked just as well >> as the mechanical one. >> >> Just yesterday I was in the Marriott app and the home gesture did >> not work. I think the app somehow overrode the portrait orientation >> and put it in landscape. Eventually I got it back but I feel like if >> I had a home button, I would have saved that 1 minute or so of time >> to get it back or reset it. >> >> >> So I don't know if I will actually do it, but I am still thinking >> about switching from the 10S to the 8. >> >> Normally outside of these products, I am always on the cutting edge >> and eager to try the latest thing. >> >> It seems like it gets to how elegant and effoertless the interface is. >> I found touch id to be 99% elegant but the face id maybe 70%. >> Best, >> Mika >> >> >> >> On 9/11/19, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >> <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> No argument there, exactly my point. >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> [email protected] >>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were >>> true? >>> >>> On 9/11/2019 10:32 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>>> I would argue that every company that makes a screen reader for the >>>> OS should work much more on basics, plain and rich text reading, >>>> how the screen reader works with the OS, supporting braille as much >>>> as possible, and making the experience as bug free as possible in a >>>> timely manner. >>>> >>>>> On Sep 11, 2019, at 11:32 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>>>> <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> This is why I rarely listen to these events. Apple is not an AT >>>>> company but I would much rather they put more resources into >>>>> improving what is already there; basic Voiceover performance, >>>>> including braille support. No Apple watch in my future by the way. >>>>> >>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it >>>>> were true? >>>>> >>>>> On 9/11/2019 3:07 AM, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>>>>> I thought I'd let everyone know that I was disappointed with Apple. >>>>>> No new hardware on the I phone, nice for sighted people who could >>>>>> use a new camera, but what about stuff for us? How on earth will >>>>>> voice over work on a watch with the display on all the time? I'm >>>>>> waiting for next year to see what happens. >>>>>> Kawal. >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>> >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this >>>>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please >>>>> contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on >>>>> the list itself. >>>>> >>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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