pretty cool! thanks. > On Sep 17, 2019, at 5:45 PM, Petrus Tuerlings <[email protected]> wrote: > > Open the main Menu VO M and go down to Preferences, interact with the > Preferences pain and arrow across until you find Siri. You can turn on things > like Hey Siri or set a key combo to talk to Siri, like command space. > >> On 18/09/2019, at 10:21 AM, Lorie McCloud <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> thanks. I hardly ever use siri on my Mac. maybe I should find out how to >> activate it. I have a touch pad but I mostly use the keyboard. I have a Mac >> Mini with a standard Apple keyboard. I have to use fn with vo and F8 in >> order to get the utility open. >> >> Lorie >> >>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 5:15 PM, Petrus Tuerlings <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> I know Lorie has already opened Voice Over utility, but there is a few ways >>> of doing it. I try and do things manually as well but last week I had the >>> same brain block so I just asked Siri to open Voice over Utilities. I’m >>> not sure if this one works on Macs without the Touch Bar but I can also >>> press the FN control option and the number 8 key on the number row. >>> >>>> On 18/09/2019, at 9:30 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> VO-f8, or look in the Utilities folder. >>>> >>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> Many believe that we have been visited >>>> in the past. What if it were true? >>>> >>>> On 9/17/2019 2:23 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote: >>>>> I guess I need a memory refresh. I'm having trouble opening the vo >>>>> utility. >>>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 4:12 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> VO Utility, Navigation. >>>>>> >>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited >>>>>> in the past. What if it were true? >>>>>> >>>>>> On 9/17/2019 1:54 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote: >>>>>>> Tim, can you tell me how to set things the way you describe here? I >>>>>>> think that might help me navigate some websites. >>>>>>> thanks. >>>>>>> Lorie >>>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 1:02 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected] >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I tend to havel cursors synchronized, and also have the mouse follow >>>>>>>> VO focus. I've also set VO to read what's under the mouse after a 0 >>>>>>>> second delay. It works well for me except in some web situations >>>>>>>> whereby if the mouse is on certain locations, VO has focus >>>>>>>> difficulties. Very rare though. So, overall, it's kind of a personal >>>>>>>> preference. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Later... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>>>>> Apple Teacher >>>>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>>>>>> Jamf Certified Associate >>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 11:56, Barry Hadder <[email protected] >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> control-option-arrows moves the vo cursor. It can go where keyboard >>>>>>>> focus might not can. Arrows or tab moves the system keyboard focus. >>>>>>>> It is usually not advisable to have the mouse follow vo, but if you >>>>>>>> lock the mouse it will follow vo automatically. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 17, 2019, at 12:27, hemachandran karah <[email protected] >>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected] >>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear all, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As a beginner, I can’t yet understand differences in cursor >>>>>>>>> positions. For example, should mouse cursor follow vo cursor? How do >>>>>>>>> I simulate various cursors? 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