Tim and everybody, I really appreciate this discussion. I just tried locking VO with VO Semicolon and then using the up and down arrows to move to a given item in a playlist. I then pressed CMD and SPACE which activated a mouse down. Remember that VO was already locked. Also, you don’t hear the MouseDown statement until the long blurb about, “to navigate this table…to exit this table….” Only then does it say, “Mouse down on or Mouse Up.” Anyway, I moved something and then pressed CMD Shift SPACE and eventually got the Mouse UP.
I’m definitely going to cut and copy this into my Mac tips and tricks folder. I haven’t tried moving something from one window to another. But I really appreciated this. Thanks, Kevin > On Sep 18, 2019, at 10:49 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > to clarify, this key combination was the original combination for dragging > and dropping when it was first introduced way back in Leopard or Snow > Leopard. This method also required you to turn off cursor tracking and to do > some careful mouse routing. The cursor tracking part of it is no longer > needed, and depending on your cursor syncing settings, mouse routing is not > always needed either. I still do that part though as I find it often helps. > No, this combination and process has not been removed, it is still a part of > VO commands. VO-comma and VO-period or VO-full stop for those of you across > the ponds, is also used for drag & drop but has lots of limitations. The > VO-comma/VO-period drag & drop process seems to require items to remain > visible either within the VO cursor or within the visible portion of a > scrollable element. This causes problems when you are attempting to drag > between windows, apps or items from one table to another. This is where the > old fashioned method shines. VO-cmd-shift-space toggles between mouse down > and mouse-up. Yes, the combination is all those keys, > ctrl-option-cmd-shift-space. It a twister combination but can be made easier > with VO-; to lock the VO keys, or to create a more simple combination with > the keyboard commander. I have a keyboard commander shortcut set for this, > but usually forget to use it and just use the full key combination as I'm > used to doing it anyway. > > There you go. Your history lesson along with clarification. > > HTH. > > Later... > > > Tim Kilburn > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Jamf Certified Associate > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Sep 18, 2019, at 19:01, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > wrote: > > Try using VO plus semi colon to lock the VO keys. That should help. Don't > forget to unlock the keys again with the same command which is a toggle. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com> > Many believe that we have been visited > in the past. What if it were true? > > On 9/18/2019 5:41 PM, Dave Carlson wrote: >> E.T. so the syntax VO-command-shift-space literally means holding down the >> Control, Option, Command, Shift keys and pressing spacebar? >> Dave Carlson >> Musician, Engineer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >> Visionaries list. >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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