I’m bothering because I have this idea that with Catalina will come iPad apps, 
like Overcast, Voice Dream Reader and Writer, and so many games. I will hold 
this idea until it is mercilessly shattered in a year or two when it sinks in 
that no, developers don’t really have a need to support Mac. And there will be 
weeping and gnashing of teeth, at least from me.

All that to say, I’ll gladly put up with a few Voiceover bugs if it means iPad 
apps.

> On Oct 7, 2019, at 10:22 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>   Rushed? Maybe. But no doubt Apple is already building macOS 10.16. Perhaps 
> even 10.17. So why bother with Catalina, just wait a year... or two.
> 
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> On 10/7/2019 8:12 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> No, I was not serious. Really, if you require a rock-solid build, I’d wait 
>> until the second major release, or even until next June when it should be 
>> pretty solid, lol. That’s just one of the problems of having a yearly 
>> release, things are rushed.
>>> On Oct 7, 2019, at 10:02 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Are you serious, Devin? Let me see... No, this isn't SNL. Fact check. The 
>>> Catalina public beta started over 3 months ago. I guess iOS/iPadOS was the 
>>> primary focus and Macs are primarily used in work environments so it is not 
>>> worthy of our time snf effort. By the way. if those blind people at Apple 
>>> can work on macOS then they can also work on the others so we need not 
>>> bother.
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> On 10/7/2019 7:37 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>> Lol because its release week now and oh my gosh it’ll actually effect a 
>>>> large number of people now and we may not be ready. Ah well, maybe there 
>>>> are blind people at Apple who use Macs who can help whatever bugs remain 
>>>> get ironed out because Macs are work devices. At least the pro ones.
>>>>> On Oct 7, 2019, at 9:24 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>   We should have had these discussions on the public beta group. Why now?
>>>>> 
>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 10/7/2019 6:49 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>>>> What irritating things? May we please have specifics here?
>>>>>>> On Oct 7, 2019, at 8:36 AM, Anders Holmberg <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>> You can upgrade but be aware that there are irritating things with 
>>>>>>> Safari and VoiceOver.
>>>>>>> Especially if you’re using a braille display.
>>>>>>> /A
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 6 okt. 2019 kl. 17:29 skrev Dave Carlson <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Haven’t heard lately from any of the early adopters/testers of the 
>>>>>>>> Catalina release. Is it stable, or are there issues with Voiceover? Is 
>>>>>>>> there any compelling reason to consider upgrading from Mojave?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Dave Carlson
>>>>>>>> Musician, Engineer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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