I still want to know what these bugs are. I mean, irritating in Safari isn’t very specific. I want to know if they’re irritating enough to justify holding off or not.
> On Oct 7, 2019, at 10:45 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Interesting perspective, because many many complaints are in fact Voiceover > bugs. So Voiceover is not of much importance as the rest. We'll just suggest > that Voiceover users send feedback to Apple. Right. > > From E.T.'s Keyboard... > [email protected] > Many believe that we have been visited > in the past. What if it were true? > > On 10/7/2019 8:25 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote: >> I’m bothering because I have this idea that with Catalina will come iPad >> apps, like Overcast, Voice Dream Reader and Writer, and so many games. I >> will hold this idea until it is mercilessly shattered in a year or two when >> it sinks in that no, developers don’t really have a need to support Mac. And >> there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, at least from me. >> All that to say, I’ll gladly put up with a /few/ Voiceover bugs if it means >> iPad apps. >>> On Oct 7, 2019, at 10:22 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Rushed? Maybe. But no doubt Apple is already building macOS 10.16. >>> Perhaps even 10.17. So why bother with Catalina, just wait a year... or two. >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> Many believe that we have been visited >>> in the past. What if it were true? >>> >>> On 10/7/2019 8:12 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>>> No, I was not serious. Really, if you require a rock-solid build, I’d wait >>>> until the second major release, or even until next June when it should be >>>> pretty solid, lol. That’s just one of the problems of having a yearly >>>> release, things are rushed. >>>>> On Oct 7, 2019, at 10:02 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>>>> <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Are you serious, Devin? Let me see... No, this isn't SNL. Fact check. >>>>> The Catalina public beta started over 3 months ago. I guess iOS/iPadOS >>>>> was the primary focus and Macs are primarily used in work environments so >>>>> it is not worthy of our time snf effort. By the way. if those blind >>>>> people at Apple can work on macOS then they can also work on the others >>>>> so we need not bother. >>>>> >>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> Many believe that we have been visited >>>>> in the past. What if it were true? >>>>> >>>>> On 10/7/2019 7:37 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>>>>> Lol because its release week now and oh my gosh it’ll actually effect a >>>>>> large number of people now and we may not be ready. Ah well, maybe there >>>>>> are blind people at Apple who use Macs who can help whatever bugs remain >>>>>> get ironed out because Macs are work devices. At least the pro ones. >>>>>>> On Oct 7, 2019, at 9:24 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We should have had these discussions on the public beta group. Why >>>>>>> now? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited >>>>>>> in the past. What if it were true? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 10/7/2019 6:49 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>>>>>>> What irritating things? May we please have specifics here? >>>>>>>>> On Oct 7, 2019, at 8:36 AM, Anders Holmberg <[email protected] >>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi! >>>>>>>>> You can upgrade but be aware that there are irritating things with >>>>>>>>> Safari and VoiceOver. >>>>>>>>> Especially if you’re using a braille display. >>>>>>>>> /A >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 6 okt. 2019 kl. 17:29 skrev Dave Carlson <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Haven’t heard lately from any of the early adopters/testers of the >>>>>>>>>> Catalina release. 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