Hi Donna.
If you have felt the braille of the BrailleNote Touch, or even the
Apex, Iwould equate the feel of the dots to one of those devices. I
was not aware that anyone else had reviewed the Mantis yet. My review
should be in the August issue of Access World.
As for the keys, I would equate those to the BrailleNote Apex QT. The
size is also similar. The keys aren't noisy, though, it sounds about
as loud to me as any laptop would. Then again, my ears are quite
broken, so I may not be the best judge of that.

HTH,
Scott

On 8/6/20, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> Thanks, Scott. The wifi feature sounds very cool. Do you like the braille?
> One article I read described it as mushy. Also, how is the keyboard. I
> remember the Braillenote having HUGE keys. That never made sense to me, and
> I didn't care for it.
> Cheers,
> Donna
>
>
>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 10:38 AM, Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all.
>> I'm writing this with the Mantis, but I no longer have access to a
>> Mac, so I'm not able to report on that.
>> With iOS 13.6, it works quite well. The thing to remember is that you
>> are using a QWERTY keyboard with this set up, so many of the things
>> you may have learned about Perkins-style keyboards do not apply. What
>> does apply, though, are all of the good and bad things about running a
>> Bluetooth keyboard on iOS. You need to be familiar with how QuickNav
>> works, when to use it, and of course the VO modifier keys. I'm writing
>> from Windows currently, as I had to sell my Mac to help pay for my new
>> hearing aids.
>> One of the really neat things about the Mantis and Chameleon is the
>> built in Wifi which allows you to download Bookshare and NFB Newsline
>> content. Not only can you do that, but if you download daisy content
>> from Bookshare, you can navigate by heading level. NFB Newsline only
>> offers Daisy, but you can do the same with that service.
>>
>> Just some info,
>> Scott
>>
>> On 8/6/20, joseph hodge <josephlho...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Traci,
>>>
>>> The Mantis supports
>>> MacOS 15.5.5+ Catalina
>>> iOS 13.5.1+
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 10:46 AM, Traci Duncan <our4p...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Will the Mantis work with older Apple devices? My Mac is running High
>>>> Sierra and I have iDevices running iOs 12.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Traci
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 6:23 AM, joseph hodge <josephlho...@gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:josephlho...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Check your spam folder some times the message goes there but you have
>>>>> to
>>>>> respond t a message saying you do want to join. If you have problems
>>>>> email me at jho...@aph.org <mailto:jho...@aph.org> with your email and
>>>>> I
>>>>> will add you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 9:11 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just FYI, I tried to subscribe to this list yesterday. I have
>>>>>> received
>>>>>> no confirmation of my subscription, and have not received any list
>>>>>> email. So I don’t know if this list is actually working.
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 7:51 AM, joseph hodge <josephlho...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:josephlho...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Kerryann,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> APH does have a list you can join to learn about the Chameleon or
>>>>>>> Mantis. Feel free to ask questions relating to the products. If you
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2020, at 2:27 AM, Kerryann Ifill
>>>>>>>> <kerryann.if...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> <mailto:kerryann.if...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I’m very new to the group tough I’ve had a Mac for some years now.
>>>>>>>> I’m about to purchase the Chameleon as I prefer compact sized
>>>>>>>> displays
>>>>>>>> and my old Varioultra20 is indicating that it wants to go to the
>>>>>>>> big
>>>>>>>> braille display bin in the sky!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I’m looking forward to learning more about t the product and will
>>>>>>>> hopefully love this unit as much as my other 2 displays.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> Kerry
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5 Aug 2020, at 3:18 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Tracy,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I hear you! I've always loved the idea of having a braille display
>>>>>>>>> with a qwerty keyboard to use with my phone or iPad
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not thrilled about the price, but I don't think you can get 40
>>>>>>>>> cells
>>>>>>>>> for less. The Focus is actually $500 more.
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 5, 2020, at 2:14 PM, Traci Duncan <our4p...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:our4p...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This isn't helpful, but doesn’t that display look awesome.
>>>>>>>>>> *Laughs
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> $2500 though, wow!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I love the idea of a qwerty keyboard with braille reading.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Traci
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 5, 2020, at 12:10 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries
>>>>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Has anyone tried this display with either Mac or IOS? Seems new.
>>>>>>>>>>> It's sold by APH, but seems to have some affiliation with
>>>>>>>>>>> Humanware
>>>>>>>>>>> as well.
>>>>>>>>>>> TIA,
>>>>>>>>>>> Donna
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