not only that but I discovered that if I deactivate touch id for anything such 
as unlocking my phone a passcode is required instead so I'm back to square 1.

> On Sep 30, 2020, at 8:51 AM, Dave Carlson <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Shawn is correct. passcode is required for Apple Pay to be active.
> 
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>> On Sep 30, 2020, at 5:02 AM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Hi Lorie. If memory serves me correctly and anyone can correct me if I'm 
>> wrong, but you need the touch ID and passcode setting on to use Apple Pay.
>> 
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>>> On Sep 30, 2020, at 2:55 AM, Lorie McCloud <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I found a setting in touch id and pass code where I could turn off the 
>>> requirement for it to unlock my phone. I don't need it for that. I just 
>>> need it for Apple Pay and stuff like that. I have my brightness at 0 and my 
>>> screen curtain on. if anybody did happen to unlock my phone out of 
>>> curiosity or whatever they wouldn't see anything.
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 27, 2020, at 9:45 AM, Pete De Vasto <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Lorie,
>>>> 
>>>> Go to Settings > Touch ID and Pass Code. There, you’ll find something 
>>>> called Require Pass Code After, which is supposed to give you options to 
>>>> tell the phone how long before a passcode is required to do stuff. On my 
>>>> phone, which is running iOS 13.7, the only option available for me is 
>>>> Immediately. Not sure why this is the case, as I remember it used to be 
>>>> you’d have other options up to 15 minutes. There’s probably another 
>>>> setting somewhere that controls it. You may have other options on your 
>>>> phone too. You probably wouldn’t want to do this, but there’s also a 
>>>> setting to not have Touch ID required to unlock your phone.
>>>> 
>>>> One other thing: I’ve had Touch ID for as long as I can remember, and I’ve 
>>>> always been able to do two presses of the Home button and be able to get 
>>>> right to a message I want to reply to. The key is to have your finger 
>>>> prints set up right. Keep in mind, also, that you can have more than one 
>>>> finger print. In my case, I set up finger prints for both my right and 
>>>> left hand index fingers, so I can unlock my phone with either hand very 
>>>> quickly.
>>>> 
>>>> Hope this helps,
>>>> Pete De Vasto
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 27, 2020, at 1:30 AM, Lorie McCloud <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> can you tell me where that setting is?
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 26, 2020, at 10:06 PM, Gabe Griffith <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The other thing you can do with the fingerprint ID is to set it to not 
>>>>>> require your fingerprint if you unlock your phone in a certain amount of 
>>>>>> time. I think it can be as little as 15 minutes or so or as much as 4 
>>>>>> hours. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gabe 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gabe Griffith 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 26, 2020, at 5:40 PM, Brad Snyder <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Face ID is awesome. I will never go back to a phone with the home 
>>>>>>> button and touch ID.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - Brad -
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 26, 2020, at 19:38, Lorie McCloud <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ah ok. not sure if I ever want to deal with face ID but it's good to 
>>>>>>> know what my options are.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sep 26, 2020, at 7:37 PM, Brad Snyder <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Well, when you get a new phone, you can get one with face ID. Then 
>>>>>>>> when you unlock it with your face, it'll work like your old one did 
>>>>>>>> without a passcode.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> - Brad -
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sep 26, 2020, at 19:34, Lorie McCloud <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ok. thanks. it was more convenient the other way. oh well........
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 26, 2020, at 7:33 PM, Brad Snyder <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Yes. Now you'll need to unlock your phone with touch ID, which will 
>>>>>>>>> take you to the home screen. Then you'll need to open messages.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> - Brad -
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 26, 2020, at 19:10, Lorie McCloud <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I just upgraded from the last iteration of IOS 12 to IOS 14.01. in 
>>>>>>>>> 12 I hadn't had touch ID or even a pass code but I set those up in 
>>>>>>>>> IOS 14.01. in 12, if I got a text message I could double tap the 
>>>>>>>>> notification and it would open messages and take me right to the 
>>>>>>>>> selected message. this doesn't seem to happen now that I have a touch 
>>>>>>>>> ID. is there a way to go directly to the new message I want to read 
>>>>>>>>> or do I just have to open my phone or unlock it and then open 
>>>>>>>>> messages?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>>>>> Lorie
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