Thanks, Anders. Which rotor is that? My Mac skills are pretty awful, despite having owned one since 2013. LOL. I actually hardly ever touch the thing. I didn't think of that solution. Should have, though, as it's a pretty obvious thing to try.

On 10/22/2020 1:12 PM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
Hi Steve!
Can you use the rotor and go to heading to jump to the actual content.
It seems to work for me.
/A

22 okt. 2020 kl. 17:17 skrev Steve Matzura <[email protected]>:

I'm trying to help someone begin to learn VoiceOver which will be used in a 
non-speech-output context. I sent this person to:


https://help.apple.com/voiceover/mac


which is the starting point for the Catalina edition of the VoiceOver user 
guide. Visually, this page is quite interesting. There's a button to show or 
hide the table of contents, and within the t of c, the individual sections have 
drop-downs which the reader can click to go directly to the desired article. 
But trying to actually do this with VoiceOver running and using strictly 
VoiceOver navigation commands and techniques has proved challenging plus. For 
instance, I can open the t of c and click on a topic, but then I can't get out 
of the t of c and down below the header bar to actually read the chosen manual 
section. Of course, the partially sighted learner can do it by jut clicking the 
mouse here, there, and everywhere, but the idea here is to teach this person 
how to do it *without* the mouse, and *with* VoiceOver running. And you don't 
even want to know how this all works on a Windows browser and screenreader!


So, please go to the page at the above link and explain to me how to move 
through the table of contents, find a section to read, then get out of that top 
window and back into the main area to read the chosen section, all done with 
VoiceOver.


Thanks in advance.


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