If the user is an absolute beginner, I would recommend VO highly. If they are a 
long time user of a different OS/screen reader pair, it takes a little time to 
adjust to the different keystrokes but VO has the advantage that it rarely 
crashes in a way that will cause you to lose data.

cdh
On Mar 16, 2010, at 1:41 PM, Tammy Abreu-Butron.com wrote:

> What a wonderful bit of information.  I'm going to check out the link.
> 
> Tammy Abreu-Butron
> www.tammybutron.com
> 
> On Mar 15, 2010, at 6:57 PM, mani <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hello:
>> I have been developing software for 20+ years and lately, because of
>> my declining vision, have been forced to start using a screen reader.
>> Just about 2 years ago, I fell in love with the Mac, and hence decided
>> to start learning VoiceOver.  I made the mistake of starting with the
>> 'Getting Started' manual(Snow Leopard version) because it just proved
>> to be a 'commands' manual and was quite intimidating( I think it
>> should be called 'Getting Frustrated' instead :) ).  I looked around
>> for other VoiceOver resources and finally came across Mike Arrigo's
>> podcasts which you can find in www.blindcooltech.com (this site also
>> has those links but I think some of them are broken)  .  He makes
>> VoiceOver appear so easy and intuitive.  I recommend that your friend
>> start with his first podcast (around 05/2008) and move up to this
>> other podcasts in chronological order.  I am so glad I found them.
>> I hope this helps.  Good luck to your friend.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> mani
>> 
>> On Mar 15, 8:55 pm, "E.J. Zufelt" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Good evening,
>>> 
>>> I would say that it is likely easier for someone to learn to use an Apple 
>>> with the VoiceOver screen-reader if they have never used a Windows 
>>> screen-reader before, than if they had.  That being said, I personally find 
>>> the JAWS screen-reader for Windows a little more intuitive than VoiceOver.  
>>> I have, however, been using JAWS for Windows for 5 years and VoiceOver for 
>>> only one year.
>>> 
>>> I think that learning either VoiceOver for Apple or JAWS for Windows are 
>>> quite a reasonably accomplishable task for someone who is willing to put in 
>>> the time and energy to learn.
>>> 
>>> HTH,
>>> Everett Zufelthttp://zufelt.ca
>>> 
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>>> On 2010-03-15, at 8:47 PM, bilgerat wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I'm not blind myself but have a blind friend. She's in her fifties and
>>>> has little experience of computers. She was sold a Mercury system  by
>>>> RNIB a couple of years back but can't get to grips with it. Nor can I.
>>>> the system seems unstable and support is extremely limited. There is
>>>> also no tuition available at all except audio discs which are
>>>> seriously deficient in various respects.
>>> 
>>>> So as a macbook user myself I wonder whether that might be a suitable
>>>> alternative for her. Basically she wants a computer for using the
>>>> internet, for such everyday things as reading a paper, ordering
>>>> groceries online, and using the BBC's I-player. But I'm really
>>>> concerned that it might be too difficult to learn. There doesn't seem
>>>> to be anyone at Apple UK who is actually experienced at using
>>>> voiceover. I found one guy at Apple who gives one-to-one tuition to a
>>>> blind user, but he told me they have given up on trying to use it to
>>>> navigate web pages because it's just too complex!
>>> 
>>>> So I would be really grateful for advice on this - how difficult is it
>>>> for a computer beginner to learn to use; what kind of support if any
>>>> is available, any any other things that need thinking about.
>>> 
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