No way can it be accessible because there's no operating system at that
point. The reason for this is probably because all the M1 stuff
pre-supposes you're using a Bluetooth keyboard. How the Bluetooth
subsystem is working at that stage of the boot process I haven't the
first clue. Maybe there are no additional key-presses involved once you
hold that power button for those five seconds. I suppose I could be
brave and give it a try.
On 12/21/2020 10:44 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
I know with the M1 macs, there is a new way of selecting a start up
disk, you hold the power button for a few seconds. With the Intel
macs, you would hold the option key but apparently with the M1 macs
you can do a bit more from the menu that appears if you hold the power
button. Do you know if this menu is accessible?
Original message:
You certainly said a mouthful about Messages. I've found workarounds,
and the 11.1 update definitely improved things, but not enough to the
point where I'd say it was as usable as it was on Catalina. The way
message conversations are selected for posting new messages or even
deleting the conversation requires more VoiceOver gestures/steps, too,
not to exclude what you wrote which is also absolutely correct.
I haven't tried the Dock stuff yet, but I'm sure it's exactly as you
reported.
One wonders, what were the accessibility testers thinking when it was
pointed out to them during the beta cycle that these things were
different enough such that retraining would be required? I totally had
to retrain myself with Messages, for sure. Unfortunately, I can't go
back to Catalina because I have the M1 Mac, and I took on the challenge
of being an early adopter, so I await improvements which will surely
come. There are a lot of core applications--core for my use anyway--that
are not yet M1-ready, and I agreed to wait for these, but I do like my
M1 Mini for all the core Apple stuff, except Messages,of course, and
probably a few more as I continue to explore Big Sur.
On 12/20/2020 7:25 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
I decided to give Big Sur a try on one of my macs, and honestly, I'm
thinking about going back to Catalina. Since I became a Mac user
back in 2008, I think this is the first time that I've considered
going back to a previous version of Mac OS, but for me at least,
there are some major issues.
First, whenever I install a major upgrade of the operating system, I
prefer to erase my drive and install from scratch. With the recovery
for Big Sur 11.1 this is impossible, Voiceover completely crashes
when trying to access the table of disks in disk utility. So, I had
to boot a Catalina recovery to erase my drive. Once that was done I
booted from the Big Sur install drive I made and the install
completed fine.
I think there is a major issue with adding or removing items from
the dock. Previously you could move to an item and then press the up
arrow which would give you the menu for that item. In Big Sur, this
works the first time although when you select the option to remove
from dock or keep in dock, that action does not take place. After
that, bringing up the context menu for a dock item is impossible,
pressing up arrow, using vo+shift+m or right clicking the mouse on
the item just returns you to the desktop.
The next issue is with the new messages app, while it's useable, the
experience is cumbersome at best. Voiceover tends to get stuck and
you can't navigate left or right, you have to either use the tab key
or use Voiceover's go to beginning or go to end commands to try to
get out of the area that Voiceover is stuck in. Also, when writing a
message, the read current line command does not work. This is the
first time I've really been disappointed with an operating system
upgrade, as I said, more than likely I will be going back to
Catalina, I may play with it for another couple days but if I can't
make these things work better than that's what I'm going to do.
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