Hi Jason,
Thanks for that information, most helpful. No reflection on Jonathan's
comment but having never used jaws, I do not see the relationship between
them and frequency range. My guess is that such would change when
incorporated into a new platform regardless.
Thanks All, we have a few more avenues to consider.
Karen
On Wed, 30 Dec 2020, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Many of them are from Nuance. The "Fred" voice sounds somewhat similar to a
DECTALK, but not as good in my opinion.
On 12/29/20 9:29 PM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
I'm not sure about frequency, I believe tmost of these voices are the same
as what JAWS offers.
Karen, Samantha.
One thing with the Apple voice setting area, one can adjust both
pitch and intonation.
My understanding of intonation is how flat the voice will b.
HTH
Jonathan
Best wishes,
Jonathan Cohn
> On Dec 29, 2020, at 14:43, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net
> <mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>> wrote:
>
> Hi Shawn,
> Thanks for that information.
> My personal situation is that, due to experiencing a rather ??unique
> secondary ??disability, I have yet to find a safe voice to use. ??One
> that does not at best stimulate my brain's dizzy centres, or at worst
> create something a bit like a Cesar.
> My last try, in March, involved a siri voice ??on an Iphone, which made
> me rather sick indeed.
> for the moment Hardware, gosh ??I wish someone had saved the digital
> dectalk voices, as I use a hardware decktalk voice now, seems safer than
> software strict like Ios...believe me its complex even for my medical
> team.
> What I hoped for from the list ??was frequency related information
> anything that might hint at quality before I try.
> I would ??not be using a strict 64 bit edition of Macos regardless for
> other reasons. ??Still, I imagine there are ??at least 20 or more
> options just in the regular non-siri voices.
> Thanks,
> Karen
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 29 Dec 2020, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>
> > Hi Karen. Some voices on the Mac are used for novelty purposes. Bells
> > basically talks, or in this case, sings like a grandfather clock.
> > There are other novelty voices that I'm not going to get indepth about
> > because it'll take all night to do so. But I can tell you one voice
> > I'm glad they finally let us use on the Mac. We can now use Siri
> > voices. They added those voices in Catalina and they can be used in
> > Big Sur as well.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Shawn,
> > Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air
> >
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> > > On Dec 28, 2020, at 10:49 PM, Karen Lewellen
> > > <klewel...@shellworld.net <mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>> wrote:
> > >
> > > What defines a voice as useless?
> > > I suppose a voice named bells, ??is just a ringer not a talker?
> > > Are the voices say for English first ??in the order, or must one go
> > > down the list ??finding non-English speaking voices mixed ??into the
> > > options? Clarity ??is an absolute requirement, and I mean strictly
> > > on the mac.
> > > Thanks so much,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well, I believe they???re only 40 English voice says, and of those
> > > > at least 10 or totally useless. Generally they???re marked them as
> > > > different genders and sometimes is a compact and a non-compact
> > > > version. One example of a totally useless one, is the bells voice
> > > > that was around since macOS eight or possibly seven.
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > > > On Dec 28, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Karen Lewellen
> > > > > <klewel...@shellworld.net <mailto:klewel...@shellworld.net>>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > ??? Jonathan,
> > > > > Do you know if any details about each voice is
> > > > > provided..anywhere?
> > > > > Its characteristics, frequency ranges, etc.?
> > > > > Surely there must be some reason that makes each voice
> > > > > distinctive from each ????other besides the name.
> > > > > That such a number exists is honestly astonishing.
> > > > > Karen
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There are approximately, 285 voices that are available as
> > > > > > downloads from Apple. If you pick the name of the Voice in the
> > > > > > Speech category of VoiceOver utility, and go to the last item
> > > > > > in the pop-up list this will be "customize".
> > > > > > Pressing this brings up a dialog with a table of voices. Each
> > > > > > voice has a checkbox next to it to determine if if it will be
> > > > > > enabled for use in VoiceOver. After the list of voices is a
> > > > > > play, cancel, and a OK button. The Play button lets you hear a
> > > > > > sample of the selected voice. The OK button accepts any
> > > > > > changes and requests System Utility to download the new voices
> > > > > > the next time it checks for updates.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ??????????Best wishes,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jonathan Cohn
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Dec 28, 2020, at 09:53, Chris Westbrook
> > > > > > > > <westbch...@gmail.com <mailto:westbch...@gmail.com>>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I like Alex, and sort of like Daniel sometimes, but are
> > > > > > > there additional voices for purchase or free? Just
> > > > > > > wondering. I like Fred's voice, but he doesn't speak
> > > > > > > clearly. haha.
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