Thanks, John. How did you access that pop-up menu? I didn't find any such controls there.

On 1/5/2021 9:59 AM, John Panarese wrote:
   I just went through your steps. I can switch to column view by way of a 
popup menu. It will show the current view being used such as icon, but if you 
VO-space on it and then VO-down arrow, you can change it to columns.

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On Jan 5, 2021, at 9:10 AM, Steve Matzura <[email protected]> wrote:

I finally got around to adding the three applications I like to have running as 
soon as my machine starts--Clock Chimes, VOCR, and SoundNotes. I opened System 
Preferences and immediately went to the Users and Groups button, then to the 
login applications table, unlocked it by clicking the lock button and entering 
the login password for my account, and pressed the Add button. What's supposed 
to happen next is you're supposed to find the application you want to add to 
this table in the usual manner--navigate to it--and press a second Add button. 
That's the way it worked in everything up to at least Mojave, as I remember. 
Now, in Big Sur, when you get to the point where you are to choose the 
application to add, it's no longer shown in a list or column view; it's now 
shown as an icon collection in column view, and I could not figure a way to 
change it. Moving through it with arrow keys does not speak the newly focused 
item. The only way I could figure to actually hear the thing on which the 
system was focused was to press VO-Down Arrow. Once I found what I wanted to 
add (after having to press a Back button to get to the top level of the 
Applications folder first), the rest was nicely accessible-TAB to and activate 
the second Add button. Has anyone else encountered this, and if so, how did you 
get around it? In particular, how did you change the icon collection view from 
column to list?

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