Apparently it's more than just hiding things. The vertical and
horizontal sliders have to be positioned just right, or the
Option-Up/Down Arrow keys don't work right. The horizontal position has
to be at 100%, so saith a friend of mine who's quite Mac-savvy.
On 1/12/2021 4:44 PM, John Panarese wrote:
You can hide some of the items from the view menu of Mail. I’m not
sure exactly how much can be done, but it’s a good place to start.
Take Care
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On Jan 12, 2021, at 4:02 PM, Steve Matzura <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I'm also interested in eliminating screen clutter for a partially
sighted user, but yes, the shortcut keys are definitely the way to go
for Mac Mail. For instance, while we don't care whether bookmarks are
shown or not in Safari, they do take up some screen real-estate for
sighted users. Eliminating that panel improved a partially-sighted
user's use of Safari greatly when I explained how to get rid of that
ever-growing list and give them back some screen space. Same with
Mail. If I knew what sidebars and such could be closed for a
partially sighted user to get more on their screen, I'd recommend it.
On 1/12/2021 1:16 PM, John Panarese wrote:
Yes, this is correct. Also, one doesn’t need to concern
themselves with the various bars and such. It’s like any Windows
mail client. You only need to navigate the mailboxes and the message
table, and this is done with simple keyboard commands. Again, like
any screen reader, if you know the shortcuts, you can avoid getting
lost or dealing with areas of the screen that are not important.
Take Care
John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
Tel, (631) 724-4479
Email, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com <http://www.macfortheblind.com/>
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On Jan 12, 2021, at 1:12 PM, Greg Wocher <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hello,
I use command plus option plus up or down arrows to move to the top
or bottom of the list of messages. I find that option plus the
arrow keys does not work.
Greg Wocher
On Jan 12, 2021, at 10:37 AM, Steve Matzura
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I'm not a major Mac user. In particular, I don't use Safari or
Mail. I prefer the user experience provided by other operating
systems and screenreaders. However, last night I had to work on
someone's Mac that was having email problems. I ironed out the
problems, but along the way, discovered that Mail was not set up
optimally for use with VoiceOver. Specifically, I couldn't use
Option-Up/Down Arrow keys to get to the top and bottom of the
messages table, and there are a lot of sidebars and other views
that are open which to me seem needless and cluttery. I look at
this AppleVis article
<https://www.applevis.com/guides/macs-mail-app-explained> which
was helpful in certain ways but did not address any of the things
mentioned above despite it having been written in 2014 and updated
just last week. Can someone amplify or further explain some of
these things? In particular, moving through the messages table a
page at a time or getting to the top/bottom of said table would be
quite helpful, as one such table in one mailbox folder has over
2000 messages in it.
Thanks in advance.
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