I only found one real solution to this issue: Navigate to an element in the Dock. Switch off Trackpad Commander. Route mouse pointer to VO by pressing VO + CMD + F5. Pressing FN additionally probably would be necessary in most cases. Hold down CTRL and press down Trackpad with one finger. Means perform a real right click. If I do so the known context menu opens reliably on my Mac. All other suggestions didn’t work more than ones. All the best Jürgen
> Am 02.03.2021 um 06:39 schrieb Brad Snyder <wb...@swbell.net>: > > I don’t find that using the Actions Menu helps get around any of the Big Sur > Dock access issues. > Maybe I’m missing something here. > > - Brad - > > > On Mar 1, 2021, at 18:51, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com > <mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Which can be done via the Action Menu with ease. > > > Take Care > > John D. Panarese > Director > Mac for the Blind > Tel, (631) 724-4479 > Email, j...@macfortheblind.com <mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com> > Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com <http://www.macfortheblind.com/> > > APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer > > AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE > > MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > > > > >> On Mar 1, 2021, at 7:50 PM, Brad Snyder <wb...@swbell.net >> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote: >> >> Adding items to the Dock never has been a problem in Big Sur. The problem >> is accessing and working with the shortcut menu for Dock items in Big Sur. >> >> - Brad - >> >> >> On Mar 1, 2021, at 18:36, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net >> <mailto:n0...@charter.net>> wrote: >> >> I wonder if this person even tried a mac. Yes, there was an issue with disk >> utility in the big sur recovery and I agree that this should have never been >> released, but it is fixed now. I'm wondering what tasks the author of this >> article wants to perform but is unable to do. There is still an issue with >> adding and removing items from the dock using the keyboard but that's not >> voiceover related directly. >> >>> On Mar 1, 2021, at 6:48 AM, kliph miller Sr <kliph.miller...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:kliph.miller...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>>>> It’s clear to me about this article 2 things. >>>> 1. This is a windows user >>>> 2. They haven’t done there homework. >>>> Note: I am not the author of this article! >>>> >>>>> Introduction >>>>> The modern era has brought many advantages for those who are blind or >>>>> visually impaired. One of the most important tools a blind user uses with >>>>> modern computing devices is a screen reader. Traditionally, screen >>>>> readers have been very expensive third-party programs that were very >>>>> difficult to obtain depending on one’s financial status. However, several >>>>> free yet capable screen readers have emerged in the last 20 years. The >>>>> two that we will be discussing are Apple’s VoiceOver for macOS and the >>>>> Nonvisual Desktop Access or NVDA for Windows. Both are powerful screen >>>>> readers in their own right, but they have their strengths and weaknesses >>>>> which I will discuss in more detail. Hopefully by the end of this >>>>> article, you will have a better understanding of each product and its >>>>> individual strengths/weaknesses. >>>>> >>>>> NVDA >>>>> Nonvisual Desktop Access or NVDA for short is a free and open source >>>>> screen reader for the Microsoft Windows operating system. The >>>>> organization behind the project is an Australian company called NV Access >>>>> (www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>). It has been around since >>>>> 2006 and primarily competes with the JAWS for Windows screen reader >>>>> produced by Freedom Scientific or Vispero as they are now known by. It >>>>> offers many of the same features that JAWS offers and should be suitable >>>>> for 99% of screen reader users. The philosophy behind NVDA is extremely >>>>> compelling. It is offered free of charge to anyone in the world, meaning >>>>> there is no longer a financial barrier for blind people to work, learn, >>>>> or do anything else on a computer. NV Access does rely on donations, >>>>> either from individuals or grants from large companies, so if you can >>>>> donate, it is very much worth it to help this amazing project continue >>>>> long into the future. The obvious benefit is that a blind person can >>>>> compete on a level playing field with sighted peers at no more cost than >>>>> anyone else. Updates to NVDA are also free, and NV Access releases 3-4 >>>>> updates per year that fix bugs and add new features. >>>>> >>>>> Since NVDA is open source, anyone is free to review the source code and >>>>> propose changes. While anyone can propose a change and submit code, it’s >>>>> still reviewed and approved by NV Access before it is included in >>>>> anything anyone can download. This ensures the security of the software >>>>> from unauthorised changes and means that the final product available from >>>>> https://www.nvaccess.org/ <https://www.nvaccess.org/> is just as secure >>>>> and well vetted as the closed source from another company. Thousands of >>>>> people from all over the world constantly contribute to the project which >>>>> benefits everyone in the end. NVDA is a screen reader made for the blind >>>>> by the blind. NV Access is overseen by a board of directors (of whom at >>>>> least 33% must be blind or vision impaired, according to their >>>>> constitution. >>>>> >>>>> VoiceOver >>>>> VoiceOver is Apple’s built-in and the only screen reader for the Mac. It >>>>> has been around since 2005, although the last significant update was in >>>>> 2011 with Mac OS X Lion. VoiceOver works well with Apple’s built-in apps >>>>> and used to be very reliable. Since it is built into the system, anyone >>>>> can walk up to a Mac running a modern version of macOS and get it talking >>>>> by pressing Command+F5. Apple should be commended for building a very >>>>> capable screen reader into the system and showing the rest of the world >>>>> that it is possible to build very robust accessibility features into >>>>> mainstream products. >>>>> >>>>> As previously mentioned, however, VoiceOver is not as reliable as it >>>>> could or should be. Apple has not made significant changes in nearly a >>>>> decade, and bugs are rarely if ever fixed. Issues have piled up over the >>>>> years and the experience, while still good, is far from satisfactory >>>>> depending on the tasks you wish to do. The latest trend appears to be >>>>> introducing bugs that make certain things unusable. For example, there is >>>>> a bug in macOS Big Sur where VoiceOver crashes when opening the Disk >>>>> Utility application in macOS Recovery mode. This is absolutely >>>>> unacceptable and would be fixed promptly if it was impacting sighted >>>>> users, yet someone somewhere decided it was okay to release with this >>>>> broken feature for blind users. This goes against Apple’s commitment to >>>>> accessibility and the high standard of quality many would associate with >>>>> the company. >>>>> >>>>> Because VoiceOver is part of the system, you must wait for Apple to >>>>> update the system to see if anything has been added or fixed. Since >>>>> Apple’s operating systems are not open source, this means Apple is the >>>>> only one that can maintain the screen reader. The fact they are not is >>>>> very sad, as VoiceOver has the potential to do many great things if the >>>>> appropriate resources were dedicated to it. Perhaps the reason for this >>>>> neglect is the extreme popularity of Apple’s mobile iOS devices, as >>>>> VoiceOver on that platform is constantly refined. We may never know, as >>>>> Apple is very tight-lipped and secretive when it comes to their future >>>>> developments. Unlike the open communication and collaboration model with >>>>> NV Access, Apple does not communicate with the disability community. >>>>> Again, this is most likely due to the secretive nature of the company, >>>>> but things would probably be much better if Apple employees were willing >>>>> and/or able to speak openly about accessibility with the users they serve. >>>>> >>>>> Conclusion >>>>> I have done my best to outline the major differences between NVDA on >>>>> Windows and VoiceOver on the Mac. While both products are good, I >>>>> personally lean in favor of NVDA. Microsoft Windows is by far the most >>>>> popular system in the world, and NVDA is a great tool in the toolbox. Its >>>>> open source nature is a major plus and means the innovation and ability >>>>> to keep up with the ever increasing changes in Windows is almost certain. >>>>> In contrast, Apple’s neglect has turned me personally away from the Mac. >>>>> I do not recommend people invest in Macs anymore either, as it has been >>>>> clear for many years that Apple’s focus is on iOS. While it’s sad these >>>>> events have transpired, we must never forget or disrespect the work Apple >>>>> has done. Apple is a pioneer in the realm of mainstream accessibility, >>>>> and now everyone else including Microsoft is trying to catch up. This is >>>>> a very good thing as it pushes the entire industry forward and ultimately >>>>> means access for blind users is only getting better and better as the >>>>> years March on. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Are you good at editing audio or want to learn how? Want to explore all >>>> the options on how to make your recordings for podcasts or other files >>>> sound good? 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