Thanks so much, Kliph! I'm glad to hear Time Machine worked well for you. I've used it to migrate stuff since 2013 and never had a problem. That isn't to say it wasn't the problem this time, honestly, I have no idea what the problem could be. But the guy at Apple didn't seem to think the time machine migration had caused it either.
Anyway, once i get the Big Sur update installed, I'll try booting into recovery mode, and see if that brings up VO. My husband isn't a Mac user, so I'd much rather be the one who's wiping the hard disk. Cheers, Donna > On May 5, 2021, at 4:35 PM, kliph miller Sr <kliph.miller...@gmail.com> wrote: > > With a M1 Mac, you just hold down the power button for about 10 seconds, then > do the usual command f5 and VoiceOver will come on. I am also sorry you are > having so much trouble, I have setup 3 M1 Macs, 2 from time machine backups, > and haven’t had these issues. > > >> On May 5, 2021, at 4:26 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> >> Can you refresh me on how to boot in recovery mode? Oddly enough, in 12 >> years of using a Mac, I've never had to do that. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >>> On May 5, 2021, at 4:19 PM, matthew dyer <ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Yes. Wile in recovery mode. CMD+F5 will bring up VO. You can then go >>> into disk utility and erase the drive then chuse reinstall Mac OS from >>> there. >>> >>> Matthew >>> >>> >>> >>>> On May 5, 2021, at 4:33 PM, <skipper8...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> <skipper8...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> How can you wipe a Mac if you have no speech? >>>> Command f5 should start VoiceOver. >>>> Can you wipe the Mac in recovery mode and get speech separate from the OS? >>>> >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad Snyder >>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 4:31 PM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> Subject: Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air >>>> >>>> I know several VoiceOver users who have new MacBook Airs with the M1 >>>> processor, and none of them have experienced the issues you report. >>>> I think your issue stems from doing the Time Machine backup from your old >>>> Mac to the new M1 Mac. >>>> I don’t necessarily think the macOS update will make any difference, but >>>> it can’t hurt either. >>>> I suggest wiping the Mac, and starting over as a completely new Mac. Then >>>> transfer your old data to the new Mac manually. >>>> I think you will have a lot less trouble doing this. >>>> >>>> - Brad - >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 5, 2021, at 13:59, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> Recently there has been a discussion about the new MBA, so I thought I >>>> would share my experience. >>>> >>>> I unboxed my MBA yesterday afternoon, and it's been nothin but a headache >>>> since. When I booted it for the first time, all seemed fine. But after I >>>> migrated my data using a time machine backup, VO went silent. >>>> >>>> Yesterday afternoon I called Apple Accessibility, and spent a half hour on >>>> hold, then another half hour on the phone with some idiot who spent the >>>> call directing me to position the camera on my phone with one hand so she >>>> could see the screen, while she directed the finger on my other hand to >>>> select and activate items on the trackpad. to say the least, the >>>> experience was unpleasant and frustrating, and I finally just gave up and >>>> hung up. My husband and I spent most of last night trying to troubleshoot >>>> the problem, as I could do nothing without sighted assistance. We were >>>> not successful. >>>> >>>> This morning I called Apple to request a replacement. I spent another >>>> half hour on the phone with a very nice support person, at the end of >>>> which, he directed me to take my computer to the local authorized Apple >>>> Service dealer. My husband and I both just took two hours off work to do >>>> that. I just got back from there. They weren't able to fix it either. >>>> He said that it looks like VO is unable to select a voice, and has >>>> recommended that I install the latest Big Sur update. I'm downloading it >>>> now. If that doesn't work, I'm going to demand a return, and go back to >>>> using my 2017 MacBook Pro, which works just fine. >>>> >>>> So, that's my experience with the new MBA, FWIW. >>>> Best, >>>> Donna >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>> Visionaries list. >>>> >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>> >>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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