Hi Jonathan, Thanks for this. I will give it a try in the morning. Cheers, Donna
> On May 5, 2021, at 9:18 PM, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote: > > acintoshes via iCloud. > often a spinning ball means that a application is awaiting some kind of > confirmation. Consider for example, when one copies a app into the > applications folder, a system dialog pops up asking for a password. I believe > in older days, this would block the finder, now I think it just blocked the > copy progress window. But other than downloading VoicePacks I can't think of > anything that might block VoiceOver. The only thing I can think of is to > start VoiceOver Utility without VoiceOver running and tell it to restore to > factory settings. > 1. Open Utilities folder in Finder. (open the goto menu and then select > Utilities) > 2. Double tap the Voiceover Utility icon. > 3. Open the file menu and select "Reset All VoiceOver Preferences …". > 4. Press the reset button in the confirmation dialog. > 5. Start Voiceover. > 6. Skip pass the tutorial by typing V (assuming the tutorial comes up). > > 1. > Best wishes, > > Jonathan Cohn > > > >> On May 5, 2021, at 21:46, skipper8...@gmail.com >> <mailto:skipper8...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Respectfully, that sounds a little harsh. >> Maybe Apple should do what Windows 10 has done for those who have a >> Microsoft account. >> When I set up a new Windows machine recently, I noticed that settings are >> synced across devices. >> >> >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Brad Snyder >> Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 9:38 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: experience with N1 MacBook Air >> >> That’s your choice. >> I think you brought your troubles on yourself by doing that Time Machine >> backup.Always better to start fresh with a new machine. >> >> - Brad - >> >> >> On May 5, 2021, at 15:45, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> >> Sorry, Brad, but after this, I'm done!!!!! I've worked way too hard to make >> this computer work. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> >>> On May 5, 2021, at 3:31 PM, Brad Snyder <wb...@swbell.net >>> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote: >>> >>> I know several VoiceOver users who have new MacBook Airs with the M1 >>> processor, and none of them have experienced the issues you report. >>> I think your issue stems from doing the Time Machine backup from your old >>> Mac to the new M1 Mac. >>> I don’t necessarily think the macOS update will make any difference, but it >>> can’t hurt either. >>> I suggest wiping the Mac, and starting over as a completely new Mac. Then >>> transfer your old data to the new Mac manually. >>> I think you will have a lot less trouble doing this. >>> >>> - Brad - >>> >>> >>> On May 5, 2021, at 13:59, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Recently there has been a discussion about the new MBA, so I thought I >>> would share my experience. >>> >>> I unboxed my MBA yesterday afternoon, and it's been nothin but a headache >>> since. When I booted it for the first time, all seemed fine. But after I >>> migrated my data using a time machine backup, VO went silent. >>> >>> Yesterday afternoon I called Apple Accessibility, and spent a half hour on >>> hold, then another half hour on the phone with some idiot who spent the >>> call directing me to position the camera on my phone with one hand so she >>> could see the screen, while she directed the finger on my other hand to >>> select and activate items on the trackpad. to say the least, the >>> experience was unpleasant and frustrating, and I finally just gave up and >>> hung up. My husband and I spent most of last night trying to troubleshoot >>> the problem, as I could do nothing without sighted assistance. We were not >>> successful. >>> >>> This morning I called Apple to request a replacement. I spent another half >>> hour on the phone with a very nice support person, at the end of which, he >>> directed me to take my computer to the local authorized Apple Service >>> dealer. My husband and I both just took two hours off work to do that. I >>> just got back from there. They weren't able to fix it either. He said >>> that it looks like VO is unable to select a voice, and has recommended that >>> I install the latest Big Sur update. I'm downloading it now. If that >>> doesn't work, I'm going to demand a return, and go back to using my 2017 >>> MacBook Pro, which works just fine. >>> >>> So, that's my experience with the new MBA, FWIW. >>> Best, >>> Donna >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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