Hi, Yes, I guess that it is possible. The M1 architecture is different than that of the Intel and thus they may have improved that functionality. Thanks for the heads-up, I’ll look into using VO in Safe mode on one of the M1’s here.
Later… Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Professional Learning Specialist Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada > On Jun 9, 2021, at 2:41 PM, Matthew Janusauskas <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi Tim, > > Is it possible that safe mode functions differently on M1 machines? I > followed the steps I found via Google search that involved booting to the > startup / recovery menu, selecting the normal startup drive and holding down > the Shift key to make the Continue button change to continue in safe mode. > The system then started with what seemed to be a minimal state without any > usual startup apps etc. Audio and VoiceOver was fully functional. > > Matthew > > >> On Jun 9, 2021, at 9:36 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Safe mode is not accessible to VO so I wouldn’t go there. The values are >> definitely configurable in the regular GUI interface. >> >> Later… >> >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Jamf Certified Tech >> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >> Apple Teacher >> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >>> On Jun 9, 2021, at 5:40 AM, Caitlyn Furness <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Can you outline the steps to boot up into safe mode and then change the >>> sleep values, please? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Cait >>> >>> >>>> On Jun 8, 2021, at 11:37 PM, Matthew Janusauskas <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> The only way I was able to change the display sleep value in battery >>>> preferences and get it to stick was to boot into safe mode and do it from >>>> there. I’ve never had to do that before. >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jun 8, 2021, at 4:19 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>>>> <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> There usually is not a lock in this pane, but maybe take a look down near >>>>> the bottom of this pane and see if there’s the lock to unlock in order to >>>>> make changes. >>>>> >>>>> Later… >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>>>> Apple Teacher >>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 8, 2021, at 3:10 PM, Matthew Janusauskas <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for the confirmation of the bug and advice on this. I’ve sent a >>>>>> report via Feedback Assistant. >>>>>> Just now when trying to follow your suggestions I’m finding the controls >>>>>> in the battery preferences all to be dimmed out. A restart didn’t make a >>>>>> difference either. Any other suggestions to try? >>>>>> >>>>>> Matthew >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 7, 2021, at 12:13 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, that is a bug. I believe that I’ve reported it, although multiple >>>>>>> reports is a good thing and often makes sure that things are addressed >>>>>>> sooner. In the meantime, I will usually use the physical trackpad to >>>>>>> accomplish this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> • using VO, navigate to the slider. >>>>>>> • interact with it. >>>>>>> • press VO-cmd-f5 to route the mouse to the VO location. >>>>>>> • click the trackpad once and it should announce 50%. This is too long >>>>>>> in most cases. >>>>>>> • click and hold and drag to the left very slowly and in small amounts. >>>>>>> VO will announce the percentage. 20% is about 10 minutes and 50% is >>>>>>> about 35 minutes. Normally, when on battery power, I wouldn’t >>>>>>> recommend going above 30%. You can go longer when on power if you >>>>>>> choose. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Later… >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>>>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>>>>>> Apple Teacher >>>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jun 6, 2021, at 12:36 PM, Matthew Janusauskas >>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Tim, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I’ve noticed when trying to change the sleep timeout setting in >>>>>>>> battery preferences on an M1 MacBook Pro the slider value I set >>>>>>>> doesn’t tick and reverts to the minimum value. Any ideas on how to fix >>>>>>>> that? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Matthew >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 12:36 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well, that’s odd. That usually happens when an MDM, or some sort of >>>>>>>>> Parental Controls has limited your access. I wouldn’t think that >>>>>>>>> that is the case here. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Oh well, how about we come from another direction. In System >>>>>>>>> Preferences, Desktop & Screen Saver, under the Screen Saver tab, make >>>>>>>>> sure that the Screen Saver is set to some time further away, like 30 >>>>>>>>> minutes to an hour. Also, in system Preferences, Battery, we’ll >>>>>>>>> select Battery so we can check its settings. Make sure that it >>>>>>>>> doesn’t go to sleep for 15 to 20 minutes when on battery and even >>>>>>>>> longer when on power. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Later… >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>>>>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>>>>>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>>>>>>>> Apple Teacher >>>>>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 11:02 AM, Caitlyn Furness >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, exactly. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for all your help! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cait >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 12:28 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So, you went to system Preferences, Security & Privacy, pressed the >>>>>>>>>>> Lock button, entered your password, pressed the Advanced button and >>>>>>>>>>> the checkbox for logging out after so much time was dimmed? Is >>>>>>>>>>> that where you went and what you are saying is dimmed? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Later… >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>>>>>>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>>>>>>>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>>>>>>>>>> Apple Teacher >>>>>>>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>>>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 10:17 AM, Caitlyn Furness >>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> No, the choice for login options in the advanced tab was dimmed.. >>>>>>>>>>>> I am really stumped! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cait >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 12:12 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If you mean that the Advanced button is dimmed, then you need to >>>>>>>>>>>>> first click on the Lock button, then enter your password to >>>>>>>>>>>>> unlock the lock. Once it is unlocked, the Advanced button should >>>>>>>>>>>>> no longer be dimmed. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Later… >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple Teacher >>>>>>>>>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>>>>>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 9:18 AM, Caitlyn Furness >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It’s dimmed out.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cait >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 11:13 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In that same Security & Privacy window, unlock the lock, then >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> press the Advanced button. Check if it is set to logout after >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a certain amount of inactivity. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Later… >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple Teacher >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 9:09 AM, Caitlyn Furness >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That button was unchecked.. not sure what to do from here.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caitlyn from rainy Ontario >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 10:57 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It sounds like you have the "Require password after sleep or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen saver checkbox” checked. You can find this in System >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Preferences, Security & Privacy, in under the General tab. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Later… >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple Teacher >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 8:26 AM, Caitlyn Furness >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Tim! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It’s happening about every 5 mins after logging in. If I am >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing email it doesn’t interrupt, but if I am listening to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> music, for example, it definitely does interrupt. Totally >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> annoying! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is happening across all users on this laptop.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cait >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 10:23 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MacVisionaries <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How often is this happening? That is, every minute or so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right after I get logged in, or after about 5 minutes, 10 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes, after I open the lid of the laptop? Just a bit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more detail to figure out the best way forward. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Later… >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple Teacher >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 3, 2021, at 8:14 AM, Caitlyn Furness >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am having issues on my Mac.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Basically, the login window for the current user keeps >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> popping up. This is incredibly annoying! 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