Just wanted to second this! Thanks, Greg. Cheers, Donna
> On Aug 12, 2021, at 12:00 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > <Macvisionaries@Googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > Thanks Greg. This is an awesome find. Excellent that it can be done without > sighted assistance. Thanks again. > > Later… > > > Tim Kilburn > Jamf Certified Tech > Apple Professional Learning Specialist > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > >> On Aug 10, 2021, at 1:37 PM, Greg Wocher <gtwoc...@gmail.com >> <mailto:gtwoc...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> If you open up the app switcher, then put focus on the problem app you can >> turn the rotor here to screen Recognition. This will allow you to turn it >> off for the app that is giving you an issue. I know this works because I >> have had to do it a couple of times. >> >> Greg Wocher >> >> >>> On Aug 10, 2021, at 2:15 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> This does not work as Screen Recognition will not appear in the rotor for >>> that app if this behaviour is present. What happens is that VO gets stuck >>> in the Status bar, and any attempts at moving focus out of the Status bar >>> are thwarted. So, because it is in the Status bar, not the Settings app, >>> Screen recognition does not present itself as an option in the rotor. >>> Sighted assistance is necessary as the remedy requires VO to be off. >>> >>> Later… >>> >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Jamf Certified Tech >>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>> Apple Teacher >>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>>> On Aug 10, 2021, at 10:52 AM, Brett Lewis <brettle...@brettlewis.us >>>> <mailto:brettle...@brettlewis.us>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> Another option is you can add the screen recognition to the rotor and that >>>> way it’s accessible if it accidentally gets turned on for a particular app. >>>> >>>> Brett >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Aug 10, 2021, at 1:23 AM, kglists via MacVisionaries >>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hello. >>>>> >>>>> Just to say that I had this problem a few weeks ago. As I have no >>>>> vision, I used my mac to restore my I phone and then had to get a recent >>>>> update on it and then make sure that my phone had gone to factory >>>>> defaults and then get the phone to restore itself from a recent back up. >>>>> I hate that voice recognition. >>>>> >>>>> Kawal. >>>>> >>>>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 7, 2021 8:58 PM >>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>> Subject: Re: More info in disappearing settings icons >>>>> >>>>> Hi Greg, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. I ended up calling Apple Accessibility. They couldn’t figure it >>>>> out either, so I ended up resetting all my settings. Kind of a pain, but >>>>> it took care of the problem. >>>>> >>>>> Just for grins, I did what you suggested, just to see what I could see. >>>>> There was nothing pertaining to Recognition in the rotor, the closest >>>>> thing I saw was Direct Touch. I suppose it’s possible that somehow that >>>>> got set to On, but I sure can’t imagine how. >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Donna >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 7, 2021, at 2:37 PM, Greg Wocher <gtwoc...@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:gtwoc...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> Move to the app switcher and make sure focus is on settings. Once focus >>>>> is on setting turn the rotor to screen recognition and flick up till it >>>>> says it is off. This should solve this issue. >>>>> >>>>> Greg Wocher >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 7, 2021, at 2:34 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Tim, >>>>> >>>>> So when I go into Settings, if VO is on, focus is locked on the Status >>>>> bar. Neither my husband nor I can scroll down. The minute I >>>>> three-finger swipe, it opens the control center. I finally got into the >>>>> VO screen by turning Voiceover off, having my husband scroll down, turn >>>>> VO back on. But he said it shows white instead of green, and when He >>>>> taps Recognition, nothing happens. Any thoughts? >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Donna >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 7, 2021, at 11:34 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>>>> <Macvisionaries@Googlegroups.com >>>>> <mailto:Macvisionaries@Googlegroups.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Maybe check if Screen Recognition has been enabled for the Settings app. >>>>> Your husband may need to do this due to the current inaccessibility of >>>>> the Settings. It would be found in Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, >>>>> VoiceOver Recognition. Usually this can be accomplished using the rotor, >>>>> but if the screen recognition won’t let you work within the Settings app, >>>>> you kind of end up in a useless loop. >>>>> >>>>> Later… >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist >>>>> Apple Teacher >>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 7, 2021, at 10:11 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> So this morning I had my husband look at my phone screen. He said that >>>>> all my icons and their labels are showing on the screen. So it seems >>>>> that the problem isn’t that they aren’t there, but rather that Voiceover >>>>> isn’t reading them. I re-booted my phone before going to sleep last >>>>> night, and still, the only thing VO will read once I open settings is the >>>>> Status bar. 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