Hey Tim,

I did try setting up my watch to unlock my phone, but got tired of having to 
enter the pass code every time I wanted to check the time, so turned the 
feature off. :)
Cheers,
Donna


> On Sep 20, 2021, at 10:45 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> FaceID recognition is very fast in the newer iPhone models.  As long as your 
> face is around 20 to 80 cm (8 to 36 inches) away from your face, the 
> recognition speed is amazingly fast and accurate.  If you have an Apple 
> Watch, then wearing a mask is not an issue.  If your watch is on your wrist, 
> is connected to your iPhone, and has a pass-code, then the iPhone will just 
> unlock as it recognizes that you have the watch and a partial face 
> recognition.  The iPhone will also instantly ask for your pass-code if it 
> recognizes that you’re wearing a mask and do not have an Apple Watch.
> 
> All this being said, yes, a properly working finger-print sensor would likely 
> be quicker if you do not have the Apple Watch scenario, but just thought I’d 
> throw some info into the mix.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
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>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:32 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I don’t know, but that’s still not as fast as just having Touch ID.
>> 
>> The other thing I don’t understand about this issue is that all the new 
>> iPads come with Touch ID built into the top button.  If they can do that on 
>> the iPads, why not also build it into the phones?
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 10:29 AM, <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Okay.
>>> Could you disable Face ID temporarily and just use the passcode?
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 11:28 AM
>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
>>>  
>>> Yes, but none that pertain to unlocking the phone.
>>> Donna
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:46 AM, [email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Okay, can u use the back tap feature to replace some of the newer gestures?
>>>>  
>>>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <[email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> 
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 10:34 AM
>>>> To: [email protected] 
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
>>>>  
>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>  
>>>> Not Shawn, but I’ll give you my take on this.
>>>>  
>>>> First, I do like the Home button.  I’ve had Face ID since the 10 came out, 
>>>> so I’m used to the gestures, but I still would prefer a home button.
>>>>  
>>>> As for face ID being faster, that’s not my experience.  With face ID, I 
>>>> can’t unlock the phone until it’s in front of my face.  With Touch ID, I 
>>>> could unlock it while I was pulling it out of my purse, so by the time it 
>>>> was situated in my hand, it was already unlocked.
>>>>  
>>>> Finally, there are two situations which I encounter on a daily basis in 
>>>> which Face ID doesn’t work at all. Face ID is an ordeal when you’re 
>>>> wearing a mask, requiring you to pull your mask down before unlocking the 
>>>> phone, which harkens back to your point that Face ID is faster.  It’s not 
>>>> faster by the time you pull out your phone, pull down your mask, and then 
>>>> unlock the phone.  And I think wearing masks is going to be with us for a 
>>>> while, so that’s a great argument for Touch ID.  The other issue I have is 
>>>> when I’m in bright sunlight.  In that situation, the screen washes out, 
>>>> and Face ID doesn’t work at all.  I can’t begin to guess how many times 
>>>> I’ve had to contort my body into some weird position just to avoid having 
>>>> the lighting wash out my screen.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Donna.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Dave Carlson <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>> Shawn,
>>>>> What is it about Face ID that you don’t like? Did you have it on your 
>>>>> previous iPhone? I personally like Face ID as it is so much faster than 
>>>>> using Touch ID or the passcode. Perhaps it’s the lack of a home button 
>>>>> that’s actually your reason for your iPhone preference?
>>>>>  
>>>>> Dave Carlson
>>>>> Farfar, Engineer, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer
>>>>>  
>>>>> On Sep 19, 2021, at 11:25 PM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>> Yeah I like my iPhone SE 2020 as well. I'm gonna stick with this phone as 
>>>>> long as I can because I really don't like Face ID.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Shawn,
>>>>> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air
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>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 18, 2021, at 5:01 PM, <[email protected] 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> <[email protected] 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> The sound quality on the SE is good, but it doesn't match the Mac or 
>>>>>> iPad.
>>>>>> The only limitation for the SE2020 is that it doesn't support Lidar, and 
>>>>>> I do not think it has 5G.
>>>>>> However, those features are not a priority for me.
>>>>>> I just hope that it will continue to receive IOS updates now that the 
>>>>>> iPhone Mini 12 and 13 are out.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: [email protected] 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]><[email protected] 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of Tali Sarnetzky
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:59 PM
>>>>>> To: [email protected] 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I must say I am very happy with mine too.
>>>>>> When I got it, my original SE was still working well, although I was 
>>>>>> using IOS 11 on it. lol
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's very responsive and most times I have no issue with it.
>>>>>> I even enjoy listening to music on it while I work, without any external 
>>>>>> speaker. The sound quality is quite good.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Take care,
>>>>>> Tali
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 9/19/21, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I love the iPhone SE 2020.
>>>>>>> It is the same size as the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8.
>>>>>>> It is fast though there have been complaints about the battery.
>>>>>>> It is the best iPhone I've owned.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
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>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 5:20 PM
>>>>>>> To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries <[email protected] 
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>>>>>>> Subject: IPhone SE 2020 (2nd generation)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I’ve decided to upgrade from iphone 8 to iphone SE 2nd generation 
>>>>>>> (2020).
>>>>>>> My reasons are to do with the touch ID sensor.  Would you be happy to 
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>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Andrew
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