What is Mac Buzz? thanks in advance..

On Thursday, November 18, 2021 at 8:48:36 AM UTC-8 wb...@swbell.net wrote:

> Yes, this also works.
> This is exactly what we discussed in the Mac Buzz last night.
>
> - Brad -
>
>
> On Nov 18, 2021, at 09:56, Patrick Ford <xplor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi, when you get to the point  in the table after interacting then you can 
> use command plus down arrow and then only use the up arrow to get to the 
> clock menu - it's strange but it works  -
> Come and See
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> On Nov 18, 2021, at 10:53 AM, Les Kriegler <krieg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Brad,
>
> Okay, I tried your steps. I’m running Monterey. When I get to the empty 
> cell announcements, I did a VO right arrow. I never heard row 15, rather 
> row 17 which was the first numbered row spoken. So I went back two to what 
> I thought was Row 15 and heard Fast User Switching. Aside from not finding 
> the Clock option, this entire procedure seems rather complicated. My one 
> complaint about Mac software is the need to interact as often as one needs 
> to do. I did try activating items that were referenced as empty cells, but 
> again I could not activate the clock. More trouble than it’s worth.
> Best,
>
> Les
>
> On Nov 18, 2021, at 10:17 AM, Brad Snyder <wb...@swbell.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Patrick,
>
> Assuming you are running either macOS Big Sur or Monterey, try the 
> following, and see if it helps:
>
> 1.  Go to System Preferences > Dock & Menu Bar.
> 2.  Navigate to the table, and interact with the table using VO + Shift + 
> DownArrow.
> 3.  Once you have interacted with the table, navigate to the item 
> labeled Clock Menu Bar, and stop interacting with the table by pressing VO 
> + Shift + UpArrow.
>
> Note: There seems to be a VoiceOver issue when navigating this table with 
> macOS Monterey, in that labels for some table items are not spoken by 
> VoiceOver.  Instead of speaking the correct label name for some items, 
> VoiceOver may say Empty Cell, or VoiceOver may speak a row number.
> In any case, the Clock Menu Bar item is the 4th row from the bottom of the 
> table, which is row 15.
>
> 4.  Once you have stoped interacting with the table, navigate using VO + 
> RightArrow, until you hear VoiceOver speak Clock, and then Date Options, 
> which is followed by several items, that can be selected or unselected to 
> suit your preferences.
> 5.  Once you have made your selection, close the System Preferences 
> window, and you are done.
>
> HTH.
>
> - Brad -
>
>
> On Nov 18, 2021, at 05:52, Patrick Ford <xplor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> In the clock menu of doc and menus in system preferences I cannot make any 
> changes. As I VO right arrow to make a change to the date and time it says 
> it is dimmed and checked and some say dimmed and unchecked. How do I make 
> the change I wish to make? I know there is a way to have Seri just say the 
> time without the date mentioned.
> Thanks.
> Patrick 
>
>
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