Hello,
Sorry if this was not clear, I have an iPod Touch and navigate with
the rotor to links. My main point was that I thought it was likely
that some extension of the VO capabilities for the iPhone and iPod
Touch might make it into the keyboard shortcut set of commands for the
iPad, given the support of both the dockable keyboard and the BT
keyboard.
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I can't imagine that the iPad would make you alternate between typing on
a keyboard and then moving over to touch the screen just to handle
some of the navigation you would carry out with gestures on the touch
screen. That would really be clunky!
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On the touch screen of the hand-held iPod Touch or iPhone, the
continuity of gesture with flicks, use of rotor and entry of text with
the virtual keyboard is fairly well integrated. On the current
generation Macs, we work largely with keyboard shortcuts and the
newest machines incorporate some of the gestures used on the iPhone
and iPod Touch. My speculation was that Apple might introduce VO
extensions for the iPad that function like the keyboard shortcuts to
make it easier to work from the keyboard alone for simple functions,
rather than have you type on your keyboard, put this down to pick up
your iPad, perform a few touch screen gestures and then put the iPad
down again to return to your keyboard.
I was not saying that the current iPhone or iPod Touch did not let you
navigate by links headings, etc. Some of the limitations in the range
of navigation options on web pages on the iPhone and iPod Touch
resemble the restrictions in VO performance in its first release under
Tiger. Since Chris was wondering about support for the VO keyboard
shortcuts that we use under the full Mac system, and since I don't
believe he uses either an iPhone or iPod Touch, I was trying to
address his questions about the likelihood for a hybrid version of the
VO on an iPad that uses some of the keyboard shortcuts on the regular
Mac keyboards, just as the iPhone and iPod Touch gestures have made
their way into the expanded usage of Mac computers under recent OS and
model updates.
I don't usually speculate like this, and since we will all soon know,
I'll end all my comments on this thread to save bandwidth.
Cheers,
Esther
Joe Plummer wrote:
That is not correct. You can navigate by links heading and so on.
You in
like safari use two fingers red apart like you are going to turn a
nob and
do this jester on the screen and it will change from heading, links
and so
on. I know I have the iPhone and do it all the time. Now if this is
not what
you are talking about then accept my apology.
Sign,
JP ( Joe Plummer)
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Subject: Re: iPad bluetooth keyboard
Hi Chris,
My guess is that you may be able to use a restricted set of the VO
keyboard commands with the iPad. On the iPhone and the iPod Touch you
have VO gestures for the rotor to change modes for input and also to
use for navigation. Although you do your typing on the virtual
keyboard, and use gestures for the other touch screen functions, I
can't imagine that the iPad would make you alternate between typing on
a keyboard and then moving over to touch the screen just to handle
some of the navigation you would carry out with gestures on the touch
screen. That would really be clunky! On the other hand, one of the
current limitations with using VoiceOver on the iPhone or iPod Touch
is that you can't use find or move to an arbitrary position in a
document or a web page, You can flick through links etc. but you can't
move to an arbitrary position based on a context search. It would
really be nice if features like these could be added. One of the
things that would make reading eBooks more convenient with VO would be
general bookmarking of specific locations within pages on the device.
Cheers,
Esther
Chris Blouch wrote:
Now that the reviews have been released it turns out the iPad's
bluetooth supports using Apple's real wireless keyboard. I think in
past posts there were some questions about using an external
keyboard. I wonder if this means VO keyboard commands will work or
is it only for typing in text?
CB
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