The apple blue tooth keyboard does not have a number pad. I fell into that one when I went to by one.
-----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joel Zimba Sent: Sunday, 4 April 2010 12:40 p.m. To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPad bluetooth keyboard I believe the apple wireless keyboard has a touch pad. As the touchpad commander works much like the iPhone screen, I don't think it would be a leap to have it work similarly when connected to the iPad. If this isn't how it works initially, I am sure it will in short order. Having the link rotor dialogue open as it does on the mac might also be simple, as it's essencially the same thing with the keyboard interface vs a touch interface. A trend toward the iPhone os (iPad os being the same thing) coming to resemble the VO interface on the Mac is probably unavoidable as they take on more and more computer functions. We shall see in the coming weeks no doubt. J On Apr 1, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Esther wrote: > Hello, > > Sorry if this was not clear, I have an iPod Touch and navigate with the rotor to links. My main point was that I thought it was likely that some extension of the VO capabilities for the iPhone and iPod Touch might make it into the keyboard shortcut set of commands for the iPad, given the support of both the dockable keyboard and the BT keyboard. > <begin quote> > I can't imagine that the iPad would make you alternate between typing on > a keyboard and then moving over to touch the screen just to handle > some of the navigation you would carry out with gestures on the touch > screen. That would really be clunky! > <end quote> > On the touch screen of the hand-held iPod Touch or iPhone, the continuity of gesture with flicks, use of rotor and entry of text with the virtual keyboard is fairly well integrated. On the current generation Macs, we work largely with keyboard shortcuts and the newest machines incorporate some of the gestures used on the iPhone and iPod Touch. My speculation was that Apple might introduce VO extensions for the iPad that function like the keyboard shortcuts to make it easier to work from the keyboard alone for simple functions, rather than have you type on your keyboard, put this down to pick up your iPad, perform a few touch screen gestures and then put the iPad down again to return to your keyboard. > > I was not saying that the current iPhone or iPod Touch did not let you navigate by links headings, etc. Some of the limitations in the range of navigation options on web pages on the iPhone and iPod Touch resemble the restrictions in VO performance in its first release under Tiger. Since Chris was wondering about support for the VO keyboard shortcuts that we use under the full Mac system, and since I don't believe he uses either an iPhone or iPod Touch, I was trying to address his questions about the likelihood for a hybrid version of the VO on an iPad that uses some of the keyboard shortcuts on the regular Mac keyboards, just as the iPhone and iPod Touch gestures have made their way into the expanded usage of Mac computers under recent OS and model updates. > > I don't usually speculate like this, and since we will all soon know, I'll end all my comments on this thread to save bandwidth. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > > Joe Plummer wrote: > >> That is not correct. You can navigate by links heading and so on. You in >> like safari use two fingers red apart like you are going to turn a nob and >> do this jester on the screen and it will change from heading, links and so >> on. I know I have the iPhone and do it all the time. Now if this is not what >> you are talking about then accept my apology. >> >> >> Sign, >> JP ( Joe Plummer) >> joeplum...@tds.net >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther >> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 1:19 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: iPad bluetooth keyboard >> >> Hi Chris, >> >> My guess is that you may be able to use a restricted set of the VO >> keyboard commands with the iPad. On the iPhone and the iPod Touch you >> have VO gestures for the rotor to change modes for input and also to >> use for navigation. Although you do your typing on the virtual >> keyboard, and use gestures for the other touch screen functions, I >> can't imagine that the iPad would make you alternate between typing on >> a keyboard and then moving over to touch the screen just to handle >> some of the navigation you would carry out with gestures on the touch >> screen. That would really be clunky! On the other hand, one of the >> current limitations with using VoiceOver on the iPhone or iPod Touch >> is that you can't use find or move to an arbitrary position in a >> document or a web page, You can flick through links etc. but you can't >> move to an arbitrary position based on a context search. It would >> really be nice if features like these could be added. One of the >> things that would make reading eBooks more convenient with VO would be >> general bookmarking of specific locations within pages on the device. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> Chris Blouch wrote: >> >>> Now that the reviews have been released it turns out the iPad's >>> bluetooth supports using Apple's real wireless keyboard. I think in >>> past posts there were some questions about using an external >>> keyboard. I wonder if this means VO keyboard commands will work or >>> is it only for typing in text? >>> >>> CB >>> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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