I don't understand the argument. I could run an FTP or e-mail server using
Windows 2000 on my old 1GHz Pentium 3. Big deal. It isn't any big
accomplishment of the Mini to do those things. Come to think of it, I could do
those things on my 60MHz Pentium with 16MB of RAM running Slakware Linux back
in 1994, so it really isn't a big deal.
You probably think that the Mini is fine because your dreams aren't large
enough. You probably don't have a job that involves having several large
virtual machines open at once, or deal with any sort of professional media
production. That's fine. If you don't, the Mini will check your e-mail, surf
the web, and run other desktop apps.
As for me, I have an MBP that is completely maxed out as far as the technology
will allow, and it still doesn't do everything that I need it to. Since I need
it to be portable, I deal, but I wouldn't prefer it. I couldn't get by with a
Mini. The Mini is great for the price, but it isn't the super secret trick to
getting the ultimate Mac for nothing. *smile*
Bryan
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 2:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: My Mac Mini
While the portability of a mini may be debatable the other performance is no
slouch. Sure I would like more/faster disk space but with Firewire800 I can
easily fix that. With dual 2.5Ghz processors and 4GB of RAM there really isn't
much you couldn't do on one of these boxes. Hence Apple selling the Mac mini
with OSX server. For someplace that needed a nice little
file/web/ftp/mysql/whatever server it could make a nice solution. The number of
problems that can't be handled by commodity hardware these days is fewer and
fewer. For the cost, I could put a whole rack of these things someplace and
handle all kinds of crazy load. This is exactly how large scale services work
today. You don't buy a 64-processor Sun box, you get 16 quadcore generic blade
servers in a rack and divide up the load. Here is a colocation service which
currently hosts over 500 Mac mini servers:
http://www.macminicolo.net/
CB
Slau Halatyn wrote:
Hi Joe,
It may very well be your personal opinion that the Mac Mini was designed to be portable but the overwhelming majority of people would probably disagree with you. In fact, the iMac is considerably easier to move than a Mac Mini connected to a monitor and yet I doubt most people would consider the iMac a portable solution. The Mini, as the name implies, is small in size but also small in features. As Bryan said, it was meant to help encourage switchers. It's great for email and web browsing, simple tasks that don't require much horsepower or expandability.
On Apr 1, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Joe Plummer wrote:
No, I dis agree with this. They made it small and portable just so you
could
move it around easily. Now for the monitor part you can get real small
monitor like a 7 or 9 inch monitor to do what you want that is very
portable
and some even runs off a battery.
Sign,
JP ( Joe Plummer)
[email protected]
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bryan Smart
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 10:25 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: My Mac Mini
I think that people are getting the concept of the Mini all wrong.
The Mini is not a laptop. If you try to use it like some sort of portable,
then you're of course free to try, but Apple has not designed it to be a
portable computer, and so, if it doesn't work like that, they won't care
that you can't make it suit that purpose. Its also not intended to be a
headless Mac for blind people.
The Mini is designed to fit two types of situations only.
1. You don't know if Mac is for you, and you want a cheap way to try it out.
2. You need a low-powered Mac to handle some basic tasks, such as being a
home or small office server.
That's it.
If the Mini feels underpowered, it is because its underpowered. It is
powered by a mobile processor, uses laptop memory, and slower laptop
hard
drives.
If the Mini sucks at being a portable computer, it is because it isn't a
portable computer. Its a cheap desktop Mac.
If the Mini sucks as a headless Mac, then that is because it isn't designed
to run without a monitor. People are supposed to buy a Mini to use with
their existing PC hardware, as part of evaluating if they'd like to
really
use Mac in the future. Of course, using a Mac with a PC keyboard and
mouse
means that you miss out on a lot, also. Stil, it is a way to try this
stuff
to see if you'll like it, or if it will be a waste of money, without
forcing
you to pay a lot for the chance to try it out.
If you're serious at all about using the Mac, you probably won't stay with a
Mini for very long. The internal hard drives are slow, the capacity
won't go
any higher than 500GB, the memory won't expand very far, the processor
is
underpowered, so on and so on.
Not trying to rain on your parade. I love hacking around with what's
possible in equipment. The thing is, if, after using a Mini, you've
become
serious enough to get frustrated with what it can't do, then it is time
to
sell your Mini to another newbie, and upgrade to a MacBook, an IMac, or
a
Mac Pro that will do more.
For example, if you're moving a computer from room to room to browse the
web, then you really should be using a MacBook.
Bryan
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris G
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 8:30 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: My Mac Mini
Hi,
It makes it more convenient to move the mini from room to room within ones
house. Now you need to move a monitor just to browse the web.
Chris
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:23:44 -0400
Ricardo Walker <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
wrote:
Hi,
I was just wondering why people find this so important? Monitors are very
cheap and you can even hook up Your Mac to newer TVs.
On Mar 31, 2010, at 10:23 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
I myself have not reported but I might even though I own a
macbook.
Take care.
On Mar 31, 2010, at 5:34 PM, E.J. Zufelt wrote:
Good evening,
Has this issue been reported to [email protected]? Perhaps
there's nothing that they can do, but it might be worth sending a quick
message.
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On 2010-03-31, at 8:31 PM, Dan Roy wrote:
Yes, that's definitely true, I wish I had known that
before I
purchased the mini, but, live and learn.
On Mar 31, 2010, at 8:35 AM, M BROWN wrote:
Several months ago I bought a Mac Mini without a
monitor. Everything
went well until I tried to use Safari to browse the web. To say the
least,
it was painfully slow, and at times refused to open the web page at
all. All
I got was Safari busy. However, when I attached a monitor, all the above
problems went away. Even though I do not have the monitor powered up, it
still works perfectly. So, just a warning to anyone buying a Mac Mini
who
intends to browse the web, forget it unless you have a monitor attached.
Kind regards
Martin
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