I don't understand the argument. I could run an FTP or e-mail server
using Windows 2000 on my old 1GHz Pentium 3. Big deal. It isn't any
big accomplishment of the Mini to do those things. Come to think of
it, I could do those things on my 60MHz Pentium with 16MB of RAM
running Slakware Linux back in 1994, so it really isn't a big deal.
You probably think that the Mini is fine because your dreams aren't
large enough. You probably don't have a job that involves having
several large virtual machines open at once, or deal with any sort
of professional media production. That's fine. If you don't, the
Mini will check your e-mail, surf the web, and run other desktop apps.
As for me, I have an MBP that is completely maxed out as far as the
technology will allow, and it still doesn't do everything that I
need it to. Since I need it to be portable, I deal, but I wouldn't
prefer it. I couldn't get by with a Mini. The Mini is great for the
price, but it isn't the super secret trick to getting the ultimate
Mac for nothing. *smile*
Bryan
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 2:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: My Mac Mini
While the portability of a mini may be debatable the other
performance is no slouch. Sure I would like more/faster disk space
but with Firewire800 I can easily fix that. With dual 2.5Ghz
processors and 4GB of RAM there really isn't much you couldn't do on
one of these boxes. Hence Apple selling the Mac mini with OSX
server. For someplace that needed a nice little
file/web/ftp/mysql/whatever server it could make a nice solution.
The number of problems that can't be handled by commodity hardware
these days is fewer and fewer. For the cost, I could put a whole
rack of these things someplace and handle all kinds of crazy load.
This is exactly how large scale services work today. You don't buy a
64-processor Sun box, you get 16 quadcore generic blade servers in a
rack and divide up the load. Here is a colocation service which
currently hosts over 500 Mac mini servers:
http://www.macminicolo.net/
CB
Slau Halatyn wrote:
Hi Joe,
It may very well be your personal opinion that the Mac Mini
was designed to be portable but the overwhelming majority of people
would probably disagree with you. In fact, the iMac is considerably
easier to move than a Mac Mini connected to a monitor and yet I
doubt most people would consider the iMac a portable solution. The
Mini, as the name implies, is small in size but also small in
features. As Bryan said, it was meant to help encourage switchers.
It's great for email and web browsing, simple tasks that don't
require much horsepower or expandability.
On Apr 1, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Joe Plummer wrote:
No, I dis agree with this. They made it small and portable
just so you could
move it around easily. Now for the monitor part you can get
real small
monitor like a 7 or 9 inch monitor to do what you want that
is very portable
and some even runs off a battery.
Sign,
JP ( Joe Plummer)
[email protected]
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bryan
Smart
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 10:25 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: My Mac Mini
I think that people are getting the concept of the
Mini all wrong.
The Mini is not a laptop. If you try to use it like
some sort of portable,
then you're of course free to try, but Apple has not designed
it to be a
portable computer, and so, if it doesn't work like that, they
won't care
that you can't make it suit that purpose. Its also not
intended to be a
headless Mac for blind people.
The Mini is designed to fit two types of situations
only.
1. You don't know if Mac is for you, and you want a
cheap way to try it out.
2. You need a low-powered Mac to handle some basic
tasks, such as being a
home or small office server.
That's it.
If the Mini feels underpowered, it is because its
underpowered. It is
powered by a mobile processor, uses laptop memory, and slower
laptop hard
drives.
If the Mini sucks at being a portable computer, it is
because it isn't a
portable computer. Its a cheap desktop Mac.
If the Mini sucks as a headless Mac, then that is
because it isn't designed
to run without a monitor. People are supposed to buy a Mini
to use with
their existing PC hardware, as part of evaluating if they'd
like to really
use Mac in the future. Of course, using a Mac with a PC
keyboard and mouse
means that you miss out on a lot, also. Stil, it is a way to
try this stuff
to see if you'll like it, or if it will be a waste of money,
without forcing
you to pay a lot for the chance to try it out.
If you're serious at all about using the Mac, you
probably won't stay with a
Mini for very long. The internal hard drives are slow, the
capacity won't go
any higher than 500GB, the memory won't expand very far, the
processor is
underpowered, so on and so on.
Not trying to rain on your parade. I love hacking
around with what's
possible in equipment. The thing is, if, after using a Mini,
you've become
serious enough to get frustrated with what it can't do, then
it is time to
sell your Mini to another newbie, and upgrade to a MacBook,
an IMac, or a
Mac Pro that will do more.
For example, if you're moving a computer from room to
room to browse the
web, then you really should be using a MacBook.
Bryan
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris G
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 8:30 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: My Mac Mini
Hi,
It makes it more convenient to move the mini from
room to room within ones
house. Now you need to move a monitor just to browse the web.
Chris
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:23:44 -0400
Ricardo Walker <[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
I was just wondering why people find this so
important? Monitors are very
cheap and you can even hook up Your Mac to newer TVs.
On Mar 31, 2010, at 10:23 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
I myself have not reported but I might even though I
own a macbook.
Take care.
On Mar 31, 2010, at 5:34 PM, E.J. Zufelt wrote:
Good evening,
Has this issue been reported
to [email protected]? Perhaps
there's nothing that they can do, but it might be worth
sending a quick
message.
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On 2010-03-31, at 8:31 PM, Dan Roy wrote:
Yes, that's definitely true, I wish I had
known that before I
purchased the mini, but, live and learn.
On Mar 31, 2010, at
8:35 AM, M BROWN wrote:
Several months ago I bought a Mac Mini
without a monitor. Everything
went well until I tried to use Safari to browse the web. To
say the least,
it was painfully slow, and at times refused to open the web
page at all. All
I got was Safari busy. However, when I attached a monitor,
all the above
problems went away. Even though I do not have the monitor
powered up, it
still works perfectly. So, just a warning to anyone buying a
Mac Mini who
intends to browse the web, forget it unless you have a
monitor attached.
Kind regards
Martin
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