Well, you make a good point, but, you need to check current configurations.

You can get a mini with 320GB drive, 4GB ram and a 2.53GHZ processor for $799.  
Yes, if you have to buy a keyboard, mouse and monitor, the price jumps.  
However, a lot of us came over from windows and already had those devices.

The bottom line is that for $400 less your only giving up a faster drive and a 
tiny bit of CPU speed.

Yes, the monitor is included and will make things more compact. if I were 
sighted, I would have jumped at the IMac, the monitor is beautiful.

Unfortunately,I have an older mini and they only offered 2GB of ram at the time.

Over all though, I will admit that a Imac would have been a better deal for me.


On Apr 3, 2010, at 12:23 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:

> The only things that the Mini has going for it are that it is the least 
> expensive Mac, and that it is the smallest Mac.
> 
> Being inexpensive doesn't mean that it is a good bargain, though, only that 
> it is the least expensive way to get some kind of Mac.
> 
> Being small is important for some special situations, like if you want it to 
> be a component in a living room entertainment center, or if you plan to stash 
> it away on a shelf in a closet.
> 
> Neither of these things make it a good desktop Mac, or even a good deal. If 
> you have no idea if you'll even like a Mac, it is the cheapest commitment to 
> try it out. If you're sure that you want to use a Mac, though, it doesn't 
> make financial sense.
> 
> The entry level iMac, the 21.5 inch model with the 3Ghz Core Duo CPU, 4GB of 
> memory, 500GB hard drive, and accessories, costs right at $1200. This iMac 
> comes with the full Apple desktop experience. You have a real Apple keyboard 
> and a Mighty Mouse. You don't need to worry about a monitor, because it's 
> built in. Its still a very small computer. The difference is that your Mini 
> lays down on your desk, and the iMac stands up. In some ways, this actually 
> saves you desk space over the Mini.
> 
> What do you need to get a Mini like that? The Mini doesn't even have a 3Ghz 
> CPU. The 2.66Ghz is the best you can get, and that Mini starts at $949. Pay 
> another $100 to get a 500GB hard drive, like on the iMac. Of course, you'll 
> need a keyboard and mouse like are included with the iMac, and so add an 
> Apple keyboard and magic mouse. Your Mini has no monitor, though, and you'll 
> have to buy one, so you'll need a video adaptor. Final check out is 
> $1,196.00, the exact same thing that you would have paid for the iMac. Not 
> only that, but unlike the iMac, you still don't have a monitor. You can go 
> buy a 20 inch one new for $70 at an office supply store, but it will be a low 
> quality LCD, not the nice wide screen LED display in the iMac. Everything 
> together will cost you almost $1,300.
> 
> So, when you're finished, you've spent more than you would on an iMac, you 
> have a slower CPU, a slower hard drive, and a lower quality monitor. Not only 
> that, but you have a separate monitor/CPU, instead of a combined unit. That 
> means that your Mini with monitor and keyboard is far less portable than the 
> iMac would have been.
> 
> Also, for almost the same amount of money, you could have purchased a MacBook 
> with 4GB memory and a 500GB hard drive for $1,249. That would have matched 
> the Mini's performance, since the Mini uses laptop guts anyway, except the 
> MacBook would be extremely portable.
> 
> Even if you got the cheapest Mini, but still got a $70 cheap-o monitor and 
> accessories, you'll spend over $800. Yes, you saved $400 over getting an 
> iMac. But you have a 2.26Ghz CPU instead of 3Ghz, you have 2GB of memory 
> instead of 4GB, and you have a tini tiny 160GB hard drive. To me, that's 
> pretty much cutting the Mini's performance to half the level of the cheapest 
> iMac, and only saving $400. Not a deal at all.
> 
> Of course, if your goal is to spend as little as possible on a Mac, then this 
> will do it. It most certainly, though, is not a deal.
> 
> Bryan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dan Roy
> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 9:17 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: My Mac Mini
> 
> Brian, the mini uses a 2.26GHZ processor and, while that isn't as much as the 
> 3.06GHZ that the IMac uses,it's certainly close.  Yes, the internal drive is 
> a laptop drive, therefore, it runs at 5400 RPM instead of 7200RPM, however, 
> for some people who just use the internet , listen to music, rip CD's, and 
> occasional word processing, it's enough.
> 
> Your right though, it shouldn't be such a big deal, but, with the other 
> supposed limitations, we knew about them before we bought our mini's, but, 
> the monitor thing, well, it would have been nice to know.
> 
> On Apr 1, 2010, at 9:25 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:
> 
>> I think that people are getting the concept of the Mini all wrong.
>> 
>> The Mini is not a laptop. If you try to use it like some sort of portable, 
>> then you're of course free to try, but Apple has not designed it to be a 
>> portable computer, and so, if it doesn't work like that, they won't care 
>> that you can't make it suit that purpose. Its also not intended to be a 
>> headless Mac for blind people.
>> 
>> The Mini is designed to fit two types of situations only.
>> 
>> 1. You don't know if Mac is for you, and you want a cheap way to try it out.
>> 
>> 2. You need a low-powered Mac to handle some basic tasks, such as being a 
>> home or small office server.
>> 
>> That's it.
>> 
>> If the Mini feels underpowered, it is because its underpowered. It is 
>> powered by a mobile processor, uses laptop memory, and slower laptop hard 
>> drives.
>> 
>> If the Mini sucks at being a portable computer, it is because it isn't a 
>> portable computer. Its a cheap desktop Mac.
>> 
>> If the Mini sucks as a headless Mac, then that is because it isn't designed 
>> to run without a monitor. People are supposed to buy a Mini to use with 
>> their existing PC hardware, as part of evaluating if they'd like to really 
>> use Mac in the future. Of course, using a Mac with a PC keyboard and mouse 
>> means that you miss out on a lot, also. Still, it is a way to try this stuff 
>> to see if you'll like it, or if it will be a waste of money, without forcing 
>> you to pay a lot for the chance to try it out.
>> 
>> If you're serious at all about using the Mac, you probably won't stay with a 
>> Mini for very long. The internal hard drives are slow, the capacity won't go 
>> any higher than 500GB, the memory won't expand very far, the processor is 
>> underpowered, so on and so on.
>> 
>> Not trying to rain on your parade. I love hacking around with what's 
>> possible in equipment. The thing is, if, after using a Mini, you've become 
>> serious enough to get frustrated with what it can't do, then it is time to 
>> sell your Mini to another newbie, and upgrade to a MacBook, an IMac, or a 
>> Mac Pro that will do more.
>> 
>> For example, if you're moving a computer from room to room to browse the 
>> web, then you really should be using a MacBook.
>> 
>> Bryan
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] 
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris G
>> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 8:30 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: My Mac Mini
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> It makes it more convenient to move the mini from room to room within ones 
>> house.  Now you need to move a monitor just to browse the web.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On The, 1 Apr 2010 07:23:44 -0400
>> Ricardo Walker <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I was just wondering why people find this so important?  Monitors are very 
>>> cheap and you can even hook up Your Mac to newer TVs.  
>>> On Mar 31, 2010, at 10:23 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I myself have not reported but I might even though I own a macbook.
>>>> 
>>>> Take care.
>>>> On Mar 31, 2010, at 5:34 PM, E.J. Zufelt wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Good evening,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Has this issue been reported to [email protected]?  Perhaps there's 
>>>>> nothing that they can do, but it might be worth sending a quick message.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Everett Zufelt
>>>>> http://zufelt.ca
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2010-03-31, at 8:31 PM, Dan Roy wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes, that's definitely true, I wish I had known that before I purchased 
>>>>>> the mini, but, live and learn.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 31, 2010, at 8:35 AM, M BROWN wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Several months ago I bought a Mac Mini without a monitor. Everything 
>>>>>>> went well until I tried to use Safari to browse the web. To say the 
>>>>>>> least, it was painfully slow, and at times refused to open the web page 
>>>>>>> at all. All I got was Safari busy. However, when I attached a monitor, 
>>>>>>> all the above problems went away. Even though I do not have the monitor 
>>>>>>> powered up, it still works perfectly. So, just a warning to anyone 
>>>>>>> buying a Mac Mini who intends to browse the web, forget it unless you 
>>>>>>> have a monitor attached.
>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>> Martin
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