Brad,
I didn't realize I had replied to this thread. Yes I agree, I find the meny on the Mac version of Word just fine. I hope to spend some time working on this and seeing what works for me. Ultimately I will translate some documents to braille. Using styles will make this easier.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable."
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On 7/15/2022 8:43 AM, Brad Snyder wrote:
On windows, the ribbon is very accessible. There are keyboard shortcuts, called 
Key  Tips, that are very accessible. These Key Tips do not exist on a Mac, and 
I find the ribbon to be worthless when using MS office on a Mac.
Thank God the menu bar is always there on a Mac. You can access everything in 
the ribbon through the menu bar.

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On Jul 15, 2022, at 09:59, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
<[email protected]> wrote:

   When the ribbon first came to Word, I never took to it thus my use of Word 
was mininal. Now I will be right at home with Word on the Mac.

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On 7/15/2022 7:31 AM, Brad Snyder wrote:
Once a pointing device is connected, VoiceOver may start on its own.  If it 
does not, you can use CMD + F5.
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On Jul 15, 2022, at 09:26, Violet Gill <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
What do you do with the mouse or trackpad once you have it connected does 
voiceover then turn on normally with the key combination cmdf5.
Thank you.
  Violet.
She/her.
On Jul 15, 2022, at 10:17, Brad Snyder <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Another source of persistent “beeping” on Macs running the Big Sur or 
Monterrey operating systems, is an alert  that lets VoiceOver users know that 
there is a notification or system dialog present on the screen.

This alert can be disabled as follows:
1.  Open VoiceOver Utility using VO + F8.
2.  Select Verbosity, from the Categories table, or just press CMD + NumRow 2.
3.  Select the Announcements tab, and then navigate to the item labeled, "Play 
Tone When system dialogs are displayed”.
4.  Open the Pop-Up button, and select Do Nothing, if you wish to eliminate the 
audible alert.

HTH.

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On Jul 14, 2022, at 23:46, Violet Gill <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

  My mac does not have a Touch Bar its a M1 Mac mini. I may need to acquire 
another monitor maybe that  will fix it so voiceover can finally come back on 
and those beeps can stop.


  Violet.
She/her.

On Jul 15, 2022, at 00:24, Dave Carlson <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

How about tapping the Touch Bar twice with three fingers? That toggles speech 
on/off.

Dave Carlson
Woodworker, Musician, Oregonian, Farfar, Pioneer, and Engineer




On Jul 14, 2022, at 9:18 PM, Violet Gill <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Yes that didn’t work.

  Violet.
She/her.

On Jul 15, 2022, at 00:03, Dave Carlson <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Did. You try to triple press the power button without holding the control key?

Dave Carlson
Engineer, Farfar, Woodworker, Pioneer, Musician, and Oregonian




On Jul 14, 2022, at 9:02 PM, Violet Gill <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

I’m using the apple magic keyboard with Touch ID.

  Violet.
She/her.

On Jul 15, 2022, at 00:00, Dave Carlson <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Don’t think you hold the control key while pressing the power button three 
time. Try without the control key. Also, are you using the built-in keyboard, 
or a Bluetooth or USB  connected keyboard? If so, you may need to press a 
different key to emulate control.

Dave Carlson
Engineer, Farfar, Woodworker, Pioneer, Musician, and Oregonian




On Jul 14, 2022, at 8:46 PM, Violet Gill <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

I have tried holding the command key and pressing the Touch ID button 3 times 
but with no result. This is very frustrating as I was hoping to use my new Mac 
mini today.


Violet.
She/her.

On Jul 14, 2022, at 23:37, Janet Ingber <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Have you tried holding down the Command key and pressing the Touch ID sensor   
 three times?  Here is the number for Apple’s help  for people who have 
disabilities. This is a free service. 877 204-3930.

Hope this helps.

Janet

On Jul 14, 2022, at 10:41 PM, Violet Gill <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Yes I hope this can get resolved soon I can use sited assistance but I’m 
stubborn lol hopefuly someone in this group has some answers maybe its a quick 
thing that can be solved independently.


Violet.
She/her.

On Jul 14, 2022, at 22:18, Paul Mimms <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

it will probably be most effective to use something like AIRA or be my eyes, 
if not a sighted person, to tell you what’s going on by viewing the screen. 
Wish I could come up with an answer but I hope you can find one yourself soon.

[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>




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and what you make of it.
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On Jul 14, 2022, at 7:16 PM, Violet Gill <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hello, when I turn my mac on I do not get any message to activate voiceover 
and I have tried pressing command f5 but all i get is a beep same goes for 
pressing any other key on the keyboard.  Yes this is my first mac.

Violet.
She/her.

On Jul 14, 2022, at 20:05, Janet Ingber <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi Violet,

Is this your first Mac? When you turn your Mac on, Do you get a message to 
activate VoiceOver.? If not, type Command-F5. Let me know what happens.

Best,
Janet



On Jul 14, 2022, at 4:31 PM, Violet Gill <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hello. I’m relatively new here. I just acquired a new M1 Mac mini. I’m trying 
to set it up with voiceover enabled but when I turn it on and press buttons on 
the keyboard all I get is beep beep no matter what key I press.
I hope this can be solved. Thank you so much.


Violet.
She/her.

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