For the person who mentioned that they have written books on MacOS and 
VoiceOver, are those on National Braille Press, or somewhere else? 

Devin Prater

> On Dec 6, 2022, at 6:17 PM, Marlene Kramer <marlenebiologis...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> thanks so very much to all who replied.
> you’re supportive encouragements give me optimism! This is much better than 
> the sense of dread I was developing.
> you all have been most helpful.
> I am sure I will have many questions to follow, but I will not be shy in 
> posting them.
> Best to all, Marlene.
> 
> 
>> On Dec 5, 2022, at 4:28 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Apple's online documentation is also useful. I would suggest this page 
>> (summarizing Mac OS keyboard commands):
>> https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT201236
>> 
>>>> On 6/12/22 06:52, bbsshawn via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>> Hi Marlene. Welcome to the group and welcome to the Mac. I've been a Mac 
>>> user for 12 years. When I got my first Mac which was a white polycarbon 
>>> plastic MacBook running Snow Leopard, I sold my Lenovo PC the same day so I 
>>> was forced to learn the Mac. It took me two weeks to learn the OS and I've 
>>> been loving the Mac ever since. Someone said on this list a while ago that 
>>> if you really want to learn how to use this platform, you should forget 
>>> everything you know about Windows and to not use your PC as a crutch when 
>>> you're frustrated with the Mac. They were great words and I took them to 
>>> heart. I think that's why I'm very good at it. Also, along with this list, 
>>> I have a Whatsapp group called Mac Users and Newbies which is also a great 
>>> group. If you'd like to be added and if you're on a mobile phone such as 
>>> iOS or Android, you can send me your contact information and I'll put you 
>>> in the group. Enjoy the Mac.
>>> 
>>> Shawn
>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 5, 2022, at 7:02 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> That’s probably true.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 4, 2022, at 7:02 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 5, 2022, at 00:00, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I don’t know why either, but that was certainly the case for me.  I 
>>>>>> think it’s because there are concepts in the Appleverse that aren’t part 
>>>>>> of Windows, such as interacting, and quicknav.  Also, in my case, I’d 
>>>>>> been a PC user for about twenty years.  So there were a lot of things 
>>>>>> that were basically hard-wired, and I had to relearn them.
>>>>> For me, it started with Apple II in the 1980s, then MS-DOS in the early 
>>>>> 90s, then UNIX in the 90s (a Sun clone), followed by Linux - both at the 
>>>>> text console and later the graphical user interface as well. This was 
>>>>> followed by Android, iOS, and then Mac OS. I didn’t have any trouble 
>>>>> learning Mac OS, as I recall.
>>>>> After that came Windows, learned “mostly on the job” in a work 
>>>>> environment, and some opportunities to experiment a little with Chrome OS 
>>>>> (but not to learn it properly).
>>>>> My only conclusion is that having learned to use several different 
>>>>> systems already makes the next one easier to learn.
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