Here is a link to all the classes that was based on Catalina: 
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8ncda1k5dqhsg9b/AABTfPHDETm_BIJNX3maZf9ka?dl=1
 The first few at least have some transcripts as well. I do still have a Mac 
running that OS and I will be able to answer questions.
> On Dec 8, 2022, at 15:55, Karen Lewellen <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> That is fine, so Long as they are correct, and in a file form.
> Its interesting, apple accessibility and I have enjoyed more than a few 
> conversations about why they skipped the previously available documentation  
> in stand alone form for Catalina.
> Karen
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 8 Dec 2022, Herbie Allen wrote:
> 
>> I might be able to give you some old training material regarding Catalina, 
>> but most things are the same. Messages and calendar are vastly different, 
>> and mail has some minor changes and you may have a slightly different look 
>> with System preferences.
>> 
>>> On Dec 8, 2022, at 15:36, Karen Lewellen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> may I ask how much this data connects with Catalina?
>>> Finding it personally frustrating,  and would welcome a solid outside of 
>>> the system itself resource.  Or better still  an in person teacher whom I 
>>> am happy to pay.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 8 Dec 2022, Janet Ingber wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Devin,
>>>> 
>>>> My book about the Mac is available on the National Braille Press website. 
>>>> However, it is about the basics of using the Mac and information about the 
>>>> Big Sur operating system. NBP does not update the book annually. Here’s 
>>>> the link:
>>>> https://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/MAC-BASICS-2021.html?from_search=1
>>>> 
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>> Janet
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 8, 2022, at 9:21 AM, 'Devin Prater' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> For the person who mentioned that they have written books on MacOS and 
>>>>> VoiceOver, are those on National Braille Press, or somewhere else?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Devin Prater
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 6, 2022, at 6:17 PM, Marlene Kramer 
>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> thanks so very much to all who replied.
>>>>>> you’re supportive encouragements give me optimism! This is much better 
>>>>>> than the sense of dread I was developing.
>>>>>> you all have been most helpful.
>>>>>> I am sure I will have many questions to follow, but I will not be shy in 
>>>>>> posting them.
>>>>>> Best to all, Marlene.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 5, 2022, at 4:28 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Apple's online documentation is also useful. I would suggest this page 
>>>>>>> (summarizing Mac OS keyboard commands):
>>>>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT201236
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 6/12/22 06:52, bbsshawn via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Marlene. Welcome to the group and welcome to the Mac. I've been a 
>>>>>>>> Mac user for 12 years. When I got my first Mac which was a white 
>>>>>>>> polycarbon plastic MacBook running Snow Leopard, I sold my Lenovo PC 
>>>>>>>> the same day so I was forced to learn the Mac. It took me two weeks to 
>>>>>>>> learn the OS and I've been loving the Mac ever since. Someone said on 
>>>>>>>> this list a while ago that if you really want to learn how to use this 
>>>>>>>> platform, you should forget everything you know about Windows and to 
>>>>>>>> not use your PC as a crutch when you're frustrated with the Mac. They 
>>>>>>>> were great words and I took them to heart. I think that's why I'm very 
>>>>>>>> good at it. Also, along with this list, I have a Whatsapp group called 
>>>>>>>> Mac Users and Newbies which is also a great group. If you'd like to be 
>>>>>>>> added and if you're on a mobile phone such as iOS or Android, you can 
>>>>>>>> send me your contact information and I'll put you in the group. Enjoy 
>>>>>>>> the Mac.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Shawn
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 5, 2022, at 7:02 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> That’s probably true.
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 4, 2022, at 7:02 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 5, 2022, at 00:00, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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>>>>>>>>>>> I don’t know why either, but that was certainly the case for me.  I 
>>>>>>>>>>> think it’s because there are concepts in the Appleverse that aren’t 
>>>>>>>>>>> part of Windows, such as interacting, and quicknav.  Also, in my 
>>>>>>>>>>> case, I’d been a PC user for about twenty years.  So there were a 
>>>>>>>>>>> lot of things that were basically hard-wired, and I had to relearn 
>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>> For me, it started with Apple II in the 1980s, then MS-DOS in the 
>>>>>>>>>> early 90s, then UNIX in the 90s (a Sun clone), followed by Linux - 
>>>>>>>>>> both at the text console and later the graphical user interface as 
>>>>>>>>>> well. This was followed by Android, iOS, and then Mac OS. I didn’t 
>>>>>>>>>> have any trouble learning Mac OS, as I recall.
>>>>>>>>>> After that came Windows, learned “mostly on the job” in a work 
>>>>>>>>>> environment, and some opportunities to experiment a little with 
>>>>>>>>>> Chrome OS (but not to learn it properly).
>>>>>>>>>> My only conclusion is that having learned to use several different 
>>>>>>>>>> systems already makes the next one easier to learn.
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