Wow. Do you realize that you are spending more than 28% of your income on just 
different ways for you to access the Internet? I spend less than 20% of my 
income on my mortgage, and that is my largest liability.

I have broadband at home, a good calling package+unlimited data on my phone, 
and will have a iPad data plan. That is a single percentage portion of my 
monthly income. And all of that is necessary for work/generating income. Most 
of my work requires that I be online most all of the time, or, at least, be 
able to get online at any time. Even still, if I was even spending 10% of my 
income on getting connected to the Internet, even for work, I'd have to give 
myself a serious reality check and re-evaluate my priorities. If my income 
dropped off, then so would my Internet access options, particularly if my 
income dropped off. Internet access can help make money, but it is a liability. 
Every dollar that you put in to it is a dollar lost. If you're throwing most of 
what you make in to it, then you'll never get anywhere financially.

It blows my mind that someone would spend almost a third of what they make on 
Internet access for casual/entertainment use. If I were you, and money was so 
tight, I'd cut/slash most of your plethora of access options out and get your 
liabilities under control. Maybe if you can access the Internet on your cell 
phone, your Air Card, and your iPad, then you don't need $50/month broadband at 
home. Maybe if you can access the Internet through the Air card on your laptop, 
you don't need to be paying for iPad access on top of that. What-ever you do, 
you'll be making a compromise. Do you want an air card or an iPad? Do you want 
broadband or an air card? I can't imagine trying to have it all and giving most 
all of my money to one telecommunications company or another, just so that I 
can check my e-mail and browse the Internet on half a dozen different devices.

Bryan

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of Cody
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 6:44 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: considering an iPad but have questions

You have a point, but consider the fact that a lot of technically inclined 
people have a cellphone, braudband internet, a 3g air card, and then to put 
this on top of that? that can amount up to $300 or so. alone before the 
adjustment I made with at and t with my iPhone, my phone bill was $169.28, 
after the adjustment it was $135.34. add $65 for an air card, $200.34, then add 
another $20 for the capped bandwidth for iPad, $220 and that last $20 I did not 
figure in tax so all in all $225 about. Then if you dont' watch your bandwidth 
and accidentally go over that 5 cents per meg you go over with vzw, I sure as 
hell don't have $300 to dump on that kind of access to the internet $100 is 
bearly passable on my budget remember the economy isn't all the greatest right 
now. And I forgot to add in $50 for TWC internet with the turbo boost 15 up 2 
down thats another $55 on top of that I'm estimating the tax there it might 
actually be near $60 or over. So say $225 + $60 you are now $285. So while $20 
by itself isn't a lot, you need to consider the many numbers of people who have 
all of the afore mentioned things combined together. and I've got a steady 
income right now of about $1000. figure in bording, food, and those bills and 
what am I left with? not very much if anything. Then pay for the apps for the 
iPad. Apple products might be kick ass, but my walet says otherwise right now.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Smart" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 6:26 PM
Subject: RE: considering an iPad but have questions


Really, that is not a lot of money. I suppose that everyone's definition of 
what constitutes "a lot" is different, but, if you're living in a modern 
western country, and you have a job, even a low paying job, you can probably 
afford $30 per month for anywhere, always on Internet, if you really want.

Do you ever order pizza? A large, multi topping pizza, with a side or two, and 
a soda will cost over $20 with tax and tip. Cut out one pizza per month. 
Problem solved.

If you aren't working, then you're probably at home a lot, so Wi-Fi will work 
just fine for you.

I think that some people would be upset with a free lunch, because someone else 
wasn't going to eat it for them. Your cell phone, with a good calling package, 
unlimited texts, and an unlimited data plan can cost well over $100. People pay 
$60 - $80 for broadband at their home. Seriously, if you can't afford an 
average of $20 to access the Internet from anywhere on a futuristic 
touch-controlled tablet computer, then said computer is probably not really in 
your budget in the first place.

I'd prefer to be able to tether, but I understand why I can't. Further, why 
would I want to? I have a Nokia phone, and it has an app that will run it as a 
mobile hot spot for its 3G data connection. I could use that with the iPad's 
Wi-Fi, but I won't do that. There is a huge battery in the iPad. 
Browsing via my phone's 3G connection would suck up that little phone battery 
before the iPad had barely begun to drain. And my phone has a really good 
battery. The number one problem with the iPhone is the poor battery. 
How long do you really think that your iPhone would last as a wireless hot spot?

Besides, who wants to bother with starting up phone hot spot apps or getting 
some cell company hot spot setup and connected every time they need to check 
something quickly on their iPad? I'd rather just take it out, turn it on, do 
what I have to do, and put it away. Unlike a laptop, the iPad doesn't need to 
waste time going in to, or coming out of, hibernate. It is immediately on and 
immediately connected. Messing around with tethering solutions takes all of 
that quick and easy on/off advantage away. It isn't always worth saving a 
dollar to waste your time.

Bryan

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cody
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 5:20 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: considering an iPad but have questions

Do you realize how big your bill would be if you did a pay as you go? as I 
said, the iPad will bring many other things e.g. apps, 3g service and other 
things that might cost you more than the device

----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Blouch <mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: considering an iPad but have questions

Data plans are required for the iPhone. It's only the iPad that lets you go ala 
carte with ATT. Must be pretty bad service if you're willing to pay 2-4x for 
Verizon to avoid ATT. Not unsurprising though. I know one person that used to 
have to leave their apartment and go to a nearby shopping center before she got 
service, and that was just for phone calls, not to mention any 3G data service.

CB

Larry Wanger wrote:

I understand the iPad data plans and their costs. However, I'm not a fan of 
AT&T, I have found places with terrible 3G access and I don't want to pay them 
for 2 data plans. I'd ultimately like to cancel the iPhone data plan if it is 
possible and just have the Verizon Mifi for data. However, my question is 
whether or not the data plans are required for the iPhone and or if they have a 
lower priced option even if it has data limits.

Thanks.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 2:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: considering an iPad but have questions

Hi,

The data plans for the iPad are pay as you go.  There is no contract.  You can 
get the $15 250MB plan as well as the $30 umlimited plan.

hth
On Apr 7, 2010, at 4:52 PM, Larry Wanger wrote:



Hi,

So, I think I'm going to get an iPad but have data related questions.


While


wifi is probably a good option, the fact is that free and reliable wifi is not 
as available as we might hope. I often find myself on the train, a


bus,


waiting at a business, Etc. where wifi is not available. Both the iPhone


and


iPad are very data centric devices and most of the apps I use require an 
Internet connection. Therefore, I can easily see situations where the lack of 
Internet access is going to be a problem. Yet, I absolutely hate the


idea


of paying for a data plan with AT&T when I'm already doing so with the iPhone. 
My iPhone is not jail broken so tethering really isn't a good


option


for me.

I've looked at purchasing a mifi from Verizon as another option. The cost


is


$50 after a rebate and either $40 or $60 per month on a 2 year agreement 
depending on the data plan I want. I'm finding that I'm very mobile and


not


at home much of the time now days and am considering canceling or sharply 
cutting back on my broadband costs there so that would offset the cost of the 
access through a mifi.

For those who don't know, the mifi is a device a bit larger than a credit card 
that provides Internet access via the Verizon 3G network.

Ultimately, there is a question here which relates to the requirement of having 
a data plan on the iPhone. Is a data plan required? Does AT&T offer


a


limited data plan at a lower cost or is the $30 unlimited plan my only choice. 
I really don't want to pay for multiple data plans if I can get


out


of it.

Thanks for any thoughts.


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