If I can get the Arch Linux installer to give me an accessible installation, I'll go with Arch.
When I succeded with VMware on my 2013 era Macbook Air, I was unable to get the Arch installer to talk, so went with Debian. That worked wonderfully as long as the Air was my traveling laptop. I've never used Asahi, but Speakup will work with any Linux. The issue with Speakup is how hard you have to work to get Speakup to work. On Arch and Debian it comes with the Linux kernel. On Fedora it does not, so one would have to recompile the kernel. I'm not up to speed on how one compiles kernels these days, and I don't want to spend my life compiling them just to run Fedora, for instance. At the moment I'm stuck licensing VMware 13. I can get as far as inputting the license key. For some stupid reason the Fusion download isn't giving me the free license, even though I clearly qualify for it and it's the license I had on my Air. That little mess remains untangled, and it's where I've been stuck for almost a year. Happy New Year, Janina Anders Holmberg writes: > Hi! > Is this Debian or Arch you want to make running on the M2? > My Mac mini is a m1 but from what I know now there is only one linux that > runs on Linux. > Linux called Asahi but I guess you know more on Linux than I do. > Not sure if you can run this with speakup. > Bless. > /A > > > 31 dec. 2023 kl. 04:12 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>: > > > > Ah, bless you Anders! I suspect running anything virtualized on your > > Macbook Air, or on mine would be a miracle on its own anymore. I did > > have it working on my Air for quite a few years, though. The trick now > > is to get it working on my M2! That's the machine I expect to travel > > with for the forseeable future. > > > > Janina > > > > Anders Holmberg writes: > >> Hi! > >> Ok,so you can use parallels for other operating systems than Windows. > >> I have a MacBook Air from 2015 I never use but it may come out handy for > >> the linux thing. > >> I could give it to you if you like but then you need to come to Sweden or > >> I need to go where you live. > >> Bless. > >> /A > >> > >>> 29 dec. 2023 kl. 19:16 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > >>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>: > >>> > >>> Let's say that I stumble along with the Mac Terminal whilst on the road > >>> with my Macbook. For me it's horribly clunky to do much of anything > >>> command line through that app, but it's not impossible in most > >>> situations. > >>> > >>> This thread suggests to me that I should take another look at Parallels, > >>> though. I don't even need the Linux desktop, just the command line shell > >>> environment. This was working very well indeed on my old Mac Air. My > >>> problems started when I got my M2. > >>> > >>> Janina > >>> > >>> Anders Holmberg writes: > >>>> Hi! > >>>> Yes of corse. > >>>> I do understand that. > >>>> But do things work for you now? > >>>> Bless. > >>>> /A > >>>> > >>>>> 29 dec. 2023 kl. 03:14 skrev 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > >>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>: > >>>>> > >>>>> Not me. Not enough room in my suitcase, which is when I need the Mac > >>>>> hosted Linux. I've a perfectly good native Linux in my office. I want > >>>>> the Linux VM for traveling. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Anders Holmberg writes: > >>>>>> Hi! > >>>>>> I???d rather use an old laptop for such things. > >>>>>> Even for linux. > >>>>>> /A > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 26 Dec 2023, at 17:31, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > >>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Very interesting. Thanks for sharing that you're also unable to get > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>> free license. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> It turns out a lot of people have had issues with that, totally aside > >>>>>>> from any accessibility. I've wasted a lot of time trying to debug > >>>>>>> that. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Furthermore, I'm concerned that VMware's new owners aren't going to > >>>>>>> pay > >>>>>>> much attention to accessibility given as how they just fired all the > >>>>>>> accessibility people from VMware. Way to go Broadcom! You're clearly > >>>>>>> not > >>>>>>> in tune with how to sell in the U.S. and the E.U. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So, anyone want to make a wager on how long it will take them to learn > >>>>>>> and mend their ways? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Argh! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Janina > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries writes: > >>>>>>>> Yes that is what I determined is the issue. And I also can't get a > >>>>>>>> new > >>>>>>>> license key (free) for Player. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... > >>>>>>>> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." > >>>>>>>> -Helen Keller > >>>>>>>> My e-Mail: > >>>>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 12/22/2023 12:48 PM, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote: > >>>>>>>>> You need Fusion 13 for VMware to work on Sonoma. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I'm still trying to resolve why I can't upgrade my license, but > >>>>>>>>> that's > >>>>>>>>> another issue. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> hth > >>>>>>>>> Janina > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Anders Holmberg writes: > >>>>>>>>>> Hi! > >>>>>>>>>> DOes it even work on an m1 Mac? > >>>>>>>>>> Or do you still have the intel? > >>>>>>>>>> /A > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 17 dec. 2023 kl. 01:40 skrev 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > >>>>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hello all, > >>>>>>>>>>> Anyone using this app to run a Windows virtual machine on the > >>>>>>>>>>> Mac? This broke under Sonoma where the VM will not start up. > >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... > >>>>>>>>>>> "Alone we can do so little; together we can do so much." > >>>>>>>>>>> -Helen Keller > >>>>>>>>>>> My e-Mail: > >>>>>>>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac > >>>>>>>>>>> Visionaries list. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this > >>>>>>>>>>> list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, > >>>>>>>>>>> please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than > >>>>>>>>>>> posting on the list itself. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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