I hope you weren’t offended but I was just wondering. Love emma > On 30 Oct 2025, at 14:30, Dave Carlson <[email protected]> wrote: > > Emma, > There are several music-based products that I have used in the past on a > Windows machine, and very prificient with them. Therefore having access to > those same programs on a new Mac with its faster processor is appealing, > especially since my old Windows PC died after 16 years of dedicated operation. > > That is my personal case for having interest in running Windows on a Mac. > > > Dave Carlson > Farfar, Oregonian, Engineer, Musician, Woodworker, and Pioneer > > On Oct 30, 2025, at 7:24 AM, 'Emma May' via MacVisionaries > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi would you want to do this? I use a Mac with voice over and do most of the > things if not more with it than I ever did with jaws and windows. The only > thing I do miss is Microsoft word. I know you can download a version but I’ve > heard good and bad things about whether it works on the Mac. Also when the > Mac comes with its own free word processing package why shell out for a new > one? I now don’t do as much word processing anyway. For what it's worth do > need I use text editor or pages slowly. Love emma > >> On 30 Oct 2025, at 14:17, Dave Carlson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Phil, >> Windows 11 is a very different interface than Windows XP, which was my >> previous OS. So I’m not the person to ask. It’s a very difficult user >> interface for me to navigate, and only time and patience will help. >> >> Purchased an annual subscription for JAWS, and I do open NVDA once in a >> while, but both are about the same. Only used Narrator initially to set up >> the PC. >> >> Since we’re drifting off topic for an Apple-based discussion, we should take >> this off list now. How about using my email directly and not get in any >> trouble with the moderators when discussing Windows. >> >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> >> >> Dave Carlson >> Farfar, Oregonian, Engineer, Musician, Woodworker, and Pioneer >> >> On Oct 30, 2025, at 5:50 AM, Phil Halton <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> That’s interesting Dave, and how about screen readers? What are you using, >> NVDA, jaws, narrator? I also hear people complaining about windows 11 as >> well, they say it’s a different interface or something like that and they >> prefer Windows 10. How are you finding it? Would you suggest getting windows >> 11 home or Windows 11 Pro? I wonder what the difference is >> Sent from my IPhone >> >> >>> On Oct 29, 2025, at 9:36 PM, Dave Carlson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Phil, >>> >>> My Dell 3060 Optiplex Mini Tower did not come with a monitor but I bought a >>> small 12-inch monitor just for the purpose of being available for >>> assistance if necessary. The 7-inch that I first bought was just too small >>> for my wife to read the text, so it went back for the exchange. I bought >>> the Dell to install Reaper and Excel. Pretty much it. I have it running >>> iCloud so that all my files are availabel to it as well as my Mac. I bought >>> that Dell refurbished on Amazon, so it was pretty reasonable. Windows 11 >>> installed. >>> >>> >>> Dave Carlson >>> Farfar, Oregonian, Engineer, Musician, Woodworker, and Pioneer >>> >>> On Oct 29, 2025, at 11:20 AM, Phil Halton <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Dave, I looked into it watched a few YouTube videos on installing >>> Windows 11 on an M3 Mac and, you’re right, it’s a lot of fiddling and it’s >>> more than I wanna bother with. I’m thinking about just buying an >>> inexpensive laptop with Windows 11 preinstalled because all I really wanna >>> do is fiddle around with it, I don’t have any real need for windows, just >>> wanna play around you know how it is. Do you have a monitor for your Dell >>> box? The only reason I’d get a laptop is so there would be a screen in case >>> I needed some visual help. Other than that, I guess just a box with no >>> monitor would be fine. >>> Sent from my IPhone >>> >>> >>>> On Oct 29, 2025, at 2:17 PM, Phil Halton <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my IPhone >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Oct 29, 2025, at 12:27 PM, Brianna Snyder <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I can tell you that yes, VMWARE Fusion does work on the m processors, I >>>>> have the very same M3, 18gb ram MacBook Pro. I use Windows to play games. >>>>> As to the actual setup of the machine, I'll be totally honest and say >>>>> that I had someone do that for me, so I unfortunately can't help in that >>>>> aspect. But once everything's all set up, it works great. >>>>> >>>>> Brianna >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 29, 2025, at 12:19 PM, Dave Carlson <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Phil, >>>>>> More to this discussion. I’m recalling that the concept of installing >>>>>> Windows on a Mac has been upended by the introduction of the new M >>>>>> series Mac. It’s possible that VM Ware and Parallels have both fallen >>>>>> behind in this regard and that the solutions may not be usable with the >>>>>> new processor types. Suggest you read up on these solutions and dig down >>>>>> to how they might or might not work with the M3 processor you have. BTW >>>>>> I also have the MacBook Pro M3 machine. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dave Carlson >>>>>> Farfar, Oregonian, Engineer, Musician, Woodworker, and Pioneer >>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 29, 2025, at 6:51 AM, Phil Halton <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> So, VMware fusion is the preferred choice for installing windows on the >>>>>> Mac? Is parallels still in accessible? Is VMware fusion free these days >>>>>> and where do I get it? Haven’t installed windows in a dozen years or so. >>>>>> Any help out there? Come on, I know lots of people here use windows on >>>>>> the Mac. Please chime in with your experience and your suggestions. >>>>>> Sent from my IPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>>>>> Visionaries list. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or >>>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >>>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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I’m thinking about >>>>> doing what you did and just getting an inexpensive laptop with Windows 11 >>>>> preinstalled. I just want to fiddle around with windows and I have no >>>>> real need for it but you know how it is. >>>> And Brianna thanks to you as well, I know that it does work great once >>>> it’s up and running but getting it up and running is a bit of trouble. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac >>> Visionaries list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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