Interesting. I also find that I loose focus when I navigate to another application. For instance, if I am reading a PDF in prieview, and go to text edit to take notes on what I'm reading, when I return to the PDF, I am placed back at the beginning of the document. This makes reading articles a frustrating experience at times. Is there a work around for this? Thanks! Olivia On May 11, 2010, at 3:53 PM, Esther wrote:
> Hi, > > As Marie says, the key is interacting with the text in Preview. If you can't > read continuously after interacting, check your PDF Display settings under > the View menu on Preview's menu bar (VO-M to the menu bar, press "V" to go to > the View menu, arrow down, press "P" to go to PDF Display, right arrow to the > submenu, then arrow down to see which display mode is checked. The default > is "Single Page Continuous". If "Single Page" is checked, VoiceOver will > stop reading at the end of each page. This setting can be useful if, for > some reason your PDF book starts reading each page in the middle due to a > conversion or format problem. > > In Preview you can Command-Right arrow to move to the next page, Command-Left > arrow to move the previous page. Also, if your PDF supports Table of > Contents organization, and you have navigated and interacted with the Outline > View where the contents are listed and selected a section (e.g., for one of > the Take Control guides, after downloading and opening the eBook in Preview, > tab to "Outline View, Table, no selection"; interact, and select a section, > then stop interacting and VO-Left arrow to the main document section of > Preview, you can then use Command-Up arrow to move to the start of the > previous chapter and Command-Down arrow to move the start of the next > chapter. These correspond to the places you would select by navigating up > and down in the Outline View. If the sidebar is not showing "Outline" view, > but is instead displaying "thumbnails" or "search results" because you used > Command-F to find a string in the document, you can use item chooser menu to > search for "Menu Button" (e.g., VO-I, then type "b u t", press return, and > arrow down to the selection and either press return or VO-Space), then bring > up the contextual menu (VO-Shift-M) and arrow up to "Table of Contents". > VO-Up arrow to the Outline view, interact, and select a section from the > contents. This only works if the PDF document was constructed with a > viewable table of contents -- you won't find this menu option in PDF files > you simply create by printing with Command-P and saving to PDF. > > Olivia, I don't know whether the "new keyboards" you were asking about are > laptop type keyboards without the page up and page down keys, but I'll paste > in part of an old post describing how pressing the Fn key in combination with > the arrow keys can generate the Home, End, Page Up, and Page Down keys of > full keyboards. >> Hello Carolyn, Phil, and Others On any MacBook, MacBook Pro, or other >> laptops such as the earlier PowerBook and iBook series, the Home, End, Page >> Up, and Page Down keys can be accessed by pressing the Fn key in conjunction >> with the Arrow keys. The easy way to check this for yourself is by turning >> on VoiceOver's keyboard help (VO-K), then hold down the Fn key and press >> each of the arrow keys in succession. You'll hear: Fn+Left Arrow "Home" >> Fn+Right Arrow "End" Fn+Up Arrow "Page Up" Fn+Down Arrow "Page Down" and, if >> I can add a couple of other keys on the right side of the laptop keyboard, >> pressed together with the Fn key: Fn+Delete "Forward Delete" Fn+Return >> "Enter" The consequences of this are that commands to go to the beginning or >> end of a list or table, like VO-Home and VO-End, or VO-Shift-Home and >> VO-Shift-End to move to the first or last word in a list or table with >> scrolling, is that a laptop user, after interacting, will use: VO+Fn+Left >> Arrow to move to the first visible word in a list, table, or web page >> VO+Fn+Right Arrow to move to the last visible word in a list, table, or web >> page In a table like the Mail messages table or the Songs table of iTunes, >> where the list is longer than the visible page, you will want to use >> scrolling to move to the actual start or end of the list, and will also need >> to press the Shift key with this combination: VO+Fn+Shift+Left Arrow to move >> to the first word in a list or table with scrolling VO+Fn+Shift+Right Arrow >> to move to the last word in a list or table with scrolling after interacting >> with said list or table. Other consequences of the Fn key usage are that >> when using TextEdit on a Mac laptop, you can use: Fn+Down Arrow to move down >> a page in a document Fn+Up Arrow to move up a page in a document Fn+Delete >> to forward delete a character All these Fn+key combinations for laptops are >> specific to Mac OS X, and do not depend on using VoiceOver. HTH Cheers, >> Esther > On 11 May 2010, at 04:46, Teresa Cochran wrote: > >> See, I knew I was missing something. Yes, Marie, interacting with the >> text works great. :) >> >> Olivia, the only thing I could think of is to use the "go to page" >> function, command-shift-g. No page functions on the new keyboards? >> That's very odd. >> >> Teresa >> >> On May 11, 7:11 am, marie Howarth <[email protected]> wrote: >>> to use VO-A once moving away from the start of the document. Try >>> interacting with the text. That helps in other apps for me. >>> >>> On 11 May 2010, at 15:02, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, folk, >>> >>>> I'm not sure if I'm missing something fundamental here, but the only way I >>>> can read a document in Preview is to press VO-A to start, then when it >>>> reaches the end of the page, I press page-down and then space when it says >>>> "next". When it reaches a subsequent page, I can only move to the text >>>> again by using VO-right-arrow to read. If I press VO-A again, it starts >>>> from the beginning of the document. Can someone point me to how I can read >>>> a document from start to finish, even if it is page-by-page? >>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Teresa >>> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
