Hi Dónal,
A shorter variation to try to change the Group Name in Address Book:
After you go to the group you want to rename (i.e., you've interacted
with the group table and used VO-Down arrow or VO-Up arrow), just
press tab, then type in the new name.
Do not interact with the group entry after you've interacted with the
group name table -- there's some sort of icon that is in front of the
name. I was reminded of a way that Jacob Schmude outlined as a way to
input/change entries that we otherwise couldn't alter, such as when I
wanted to redefine the shortcut for switching language keyboards by
typing in a new definition. He just pressed the tab key and typed in
the entry. I found that it worked, and tried it here.
Cheers,
Esther
On 12 May 2010, at 08:35, Esther wrote:
Hi Dónal,
You need to use the delete key (without holding down the Control and
Option keys) just after you've created the new group, while it is
highlighted, and before you move around. If you try to go to the
group and interact, and then press the delete key, your Mac will
indeed try to delete the group entry.
If you want to change the name of a group you've created, try the
following:
1. Go to the group you want to edit and interact (e.g., if you were
starting from scratch, you would naviagate to the groups table of
Address Book and interact, then VO down arrow to the entry of
interest.
2. VO-Command-F5 to move the mouse cursor to the VoiceOver cursor
3. Click with VO-Shift-Space on the group name entry.
4. Press the delete key and type in the new group name.
Let us know if this works for you. And, that was a nice write-up of
a work around in Marie's blog.
Cheers,
Esther
On 12 May 2010, at 08:14, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
Ah interesting :) OK what happens in this one (for me) is this:
1. I go to the group I want to edit;
2. I interact with it. Vo says "interacting with edit text"
3 I press delete, at which point it tries to delete the group
rather than the text.
I tried the workaround of:
1. finding the group;
2. turning off VO;
3. pressing "enter" and then deleting.
However this also didn't work.
I'll keep playing with it, but it might be nice if a few others
could take a look so we can isolate a set of circumstances in which
this happens. Might not be a bug, just an unexpected "feature".
Cheers
Dónal
On 12 May 2010, at 19:01, marie Howarth wrote:
oh I hadn't experienced that. Maybe you might want to report it. :)
On 12 May 2010, at 18:24, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
Nice workaround Marie Cheers !:)
I presume the other part of this bug, namely where pressing the
delete key delets the group rather than editing the name has also
been reported to Apple?
Dónal
On 12 May 2010, at 18:17, marie Howarth wrote:
This is a bug that's been reported to Apple,
OK, good news, there's a work around.
Check out this blog and I give instructions how to get around
this problem in address book.
http://blindbabbles.wordpress.com/2010/03/25/address-book-a-quick-start/
Hope this helps you :)
On 12 May 2010, at 17:54, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
Hi,
Ok I'm having one of those days I'd rather forget, because I've
done so many daft things on my machine. Can I blame the exams
I've been grading? <smile>
Anyways, I'm trying to add a new group in adddressbook. So
I've done the following:
1. gone to the popup menu, and selected "add new group".
2. tried to give it a name;
3. failed dismally.
The problem seems to be that I can't edit the group name.
Interestingly, when I go back to the "groups" table and
interact, VO seems to be getting confused. It says it's
highlighting row two, yet won't allow me to go to a different
row.
Suggestions welcome... I think I need more tea :-)
Cheers
Dónal
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