On May 22, 2010, at 10:43 AM, Dan Roy wrote:

> You got to be kidding.  I was excited about the ipad because all these books 
> would be accessible to us. Yes, I guess they are, but, having to clear memory 
> and or turning vo off and on to get to every page, well, that's a bit clunky. 
>  I am sure though these issues will be addressed soon!
> 
> 
> On May 20, 2010, at 11:30 PM, Esther wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Yuma,
>> 
>> If you have an ePub file from O'Reilly, just use Command-O ("Add to 
>> Library") as though it were an audiobook or music track.  It will show up in 
>> your iTunes Library under Books.  Then, just sync it to your iPad by 
>> checking it on the appropriate tab.  (I don't remember the tab name).
>> 
>> If you want to try to read it in Stanza, download the app, and when you've 
>> launched it double tap the "Get Books" button.  The "Catalog" button should 
>> be selected, if not, double tap it. Flick right or read down to "O'Reilly 
>> Ebooks" (third entry in list) and double tap. Flick right or touch the "My 
>> oreilly.com Bookshelf" (sixth item in list) and double tap.  You'll have to 
>> log into your account with user name and password.  Find your book title in 
>> the list and double tap.  You'll get a page with the list of available 
>> formats and their download sizes.  (Some books are only available in PDF 
>> format).  If there is an ePub format, and you find an entry for it, if you 
>> flick right there will be "Download (link image)" and then a second 
>> "Download to Stanza (link image)" just below it.  Double tap the "Download 
>> to Stanza" link if you want to download to Stanza.  Just below that will be 
>> a "Read in Ibis Reader (link image)". You probably only want to try one of 
>> these at a time.  Using Ibis Reader requires you to create an account, and 
>> then create an Ibis local web account icon on your device, which will take 
>> up 50 MB.  You download your ePub book to your Ibis Reader account in the 
>> cloud, then use your locally installed Ibis Reader to get your books from 
>> the cloud so you can read it even within an internet connection.  
>> 
>> I would try just using iBooks, if you can download the app from your iTunes 
>> Store.  If you can't download the iBooks app yet, I would try using Stanza, 
>> but I would turn VoiceOver off and restart the iPad before I tried reading 
>> after you do the download.  If you have the System Activity Monitor app, I 
>> would also use it to free memory.  Then, when you start up Stanza, go to 
>> your Library and double tap to select the book.  You'll have to double tap 
>> the center of the screen to bring up the menu, then double tap the table of 
>> contents button at the bottom left. (This button isn't announced on my iPod 
>> Touch, which is all that I have with me now to guide the directions). Select 
>> a chapter or introduction and double tap Try using a two finger flick down 
>> to read.  On my iPod Touch, reading doesn't advance beyond the current page, 
>> and stops at every change of font.  On the iPad, reading stops at the first 
>> page if the system is heavily loaded because you've been downloading large 
>> files or streaming video, etc. If I restart the device and clear caches 
>> (e.g., if I've been browsing heavily in Safari), I can read through each 
>> chapter in Stanza with VoiceOver.  I thnk this may depend on the chapter 
>> length. If things are loaded, reading will stop before you get to the end of 
>> a chapter. You can toggle VoiceOver off, and just tap the right side of the 
>> screen to advance pages, if the current page stopped advancing.  Then, you 
>> can touch the screen or flick down and VoiceOver will start reading again.  
>> The problem is, that like Kobo Books, your position in the chapter or 
>> section won't update with VoiceOver on, so if you stop midway and try to 
>> restart reading, you start at the beginning, unless you toggle VoiceOver off 
>> and tap the right side to advance pages.  But then, you have to check how 
>> far you've gone.  If you read through to the end of the chapter, VoiceOve 
>> will stop, and you'll need to double tap the center of the screen to bring 
>> up the controls and double tap the table of contents button at the bottom 
>> left to select the next chapter. Or, you'll be told "Page x of y" with the 
>> page controls, and you can toggle VoiceOver off, and tap the right side of 
>> the screen the correct number of times to get to the end of the Chapter. You 
>> won't be able to make VoiceOver read past the end of chapter. If you tap the 
>> right side of the screen to advance to the next chapter with VoiceOver off, 
>> you can turn it on again and start reading.
>> 
>> The only app I've been able to use with the Acapela group voices is iSpeak 
>> It! and I had to copy and paste the text in from Simple Note.  (I copied the 
>> selection on my Macbook, and pasted it into Simplenote with Notational 
>> Velocity -- both free apps.  Then I opened Simplenote on my iPod Touch, set 
>> the rotor and copied the text, and pasted it into iSpeak It! as described in 
>> a post a couple of weeks ago.  You can get French, Spanish, Italian, and 
>> German voices for $0.99 each.  You can't exit the app and resume reading 
>> where you were, but you can set any speaking rate that the iPhone can 
>> handle.  Alternatively, you can try Read2Me, which only works with the 
>> English voices.  It's been updated, so you should be able to upload text 
>> through Google Docs, but I haven't tried this.  You can now speed up the 
>> voice somewhat (5 settings, with 3 being the normal rate).
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> On May 20, 2010, Yuma Antoine Decaux  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi list,
>>> 
>>> Just to add some fuel to the fire i am feeling right now about books i cant 
>>> read, i had the following questions:
>>> 
>>> Has anyone successfully placed epub files into their ibook app on the ipad? 
>>> If so, what is the procedure? is it just importing epub books in itunes or 
>>> is it a bit more complicated than that?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Secondly, has anyone found any app either from acapella or other licensees 
>>> of acapella coming out with a natural sounding e-book reader?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yuma
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
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I Wonder if all this behavior applies to books gotten through the iBook store 
as well.  I could understand it a bit if so. Still kinda sad. :(

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