I think they meant control option D which takes you to the Doc. hth On Jun 3, 2010, at 10:28 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> Oh wow interesting. I'll have to play with it. I still don't see how command > option d can work. it does not for me not at all. It hit it from anywhere and > nothing happens. > > I'll have to try the number commander as well. I thought it was impossible as > I don't have a mac full-sized keyboard with a number pad. > > S > On Jun 3, 2010, at 2:26 PM, Esther wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I completely agree with Anne here about the value of using standard Mac >> shortcuts. Just a few comments on suggesting shortcuts: there are still a >> number of users on list who use earlier versions of VoiceOver -- a few even >> still use Tiger. It can be important to tell people if you know that a >> shortcut (like Erik's example of Command-Option-D) only works under Snow >> Leopard when there are other shortcut versions (e.g. VO-D or Control-F3) >> that work under every version of VoiceOver. Again, it's a question of >> tradeoffs between what's easiest to learn for a beginner (in terms of groups >> of commands that are easy to memorize), and ease of typing. Like Anne, I'm >> used to typing all these multi-key combinations, which have long since sunk >> into muscle memory. >> >> One of the great things about using a Mac is that you can go up to any Mac >> and use VoiceOver. Another possible way to customize your shortcuts: >> Daniel reported a few months ago on this list that the Numpad Commander >> shortcuts work using the top row of number keys on the Mac laptops when you >> hold down an arrow key and have Numpad Commander turned on. Since a large >> number of users who are asking for simpler VoiceOver keyboard shortcuts are >> using laptop keyboards, customizing your Numpad Commander definitions in >> VoiceOver Utility, and then holding down an arrow key and pressing one of >> the keys in the top row of numbers to get the corresponding Numpad Commander >> definition is another way to extend your shortcuts. This can be especially >> useful if you move between desktop and laptop, or eventually get a desktop >> keyboard, and want to use the same definitions. This also seems to work on >> older model Intel laptops, and at least in Leopard as well as Snow Leopard. >> I set up an external numeric keypad with (unshifted) Numpad definitions >> like: "3" for "Mouse to VoiceOver Cursor", "+" for "Interact with item", and >> "-" for "Stop interacting", and I can press an arrow key with my right hand >> and tap the "3" to move my mouse cursor to the VoiceOver cursor (instead of >> the VO-Command-F5), or I can press the left arrow key with my right thumb >> and then tap the "-" or "+" keys beside the delete key with my right middle >> finger to start or stop interacting. (I actually prefer to use VO-Shift-Down >> Arrow, etc., but this is just for an example.) >> >> Just some more suggestions. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Jun 3, 2010, at 10:43, Anne Robertson wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Jun 3, 2010, at 10:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> and anothe rkeystroke you can use is control f2. thats the one I've been >>>> using. >>> >>> That is the key stroke to take you to the Apple menu. Control-F3 takes you >>> to the Dock. >>> Control-F8 takes you to the Status menus. >>> Command-Shift-D takes you to the Desktop. >>> >>> All these shortcuts are documented against their corresponding menu items. >>> >>> VoiceOver does not "Teach" us to do anything in particular. It simply gives >>> us options we can use. The specific VO commands are useful when we work >>> with the VO keys locked, which was a common thing to do before Snow Leopard >>> and Quick Nav. >>> >>> The standard Mac shortcuts are second nature to me because I've been using >>> a Mac for 14 years, and many shortcuts go back a long way. Others are very >>> recent, such as Command-Shift-O to go to your Documents folder. >>> >>> I always teach people the standard Mac shortcuts because you never know >>> when you'll need them. >>> >>> It's worth taking the time to look closely at menus to see just how many >>> useful shortcuts there are. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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