Interesting, I've got windows 7 on 5 different machines, including vm fusion on my mac book pro. And I only had issues on the first install with the jaws video intercept not installing correctly.
Other than that, I've had no trouble with windows 7 and jaws playing together nicely. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin Sent: Sunday, 6 June 2010 5:17 a.m. To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [bcab] End of Freedom? Just to add to this, this week I inherited a PC that my husband isn't using. It's a fairly new computer running Windows 7, and I've been trying to install JAWS on it since Wednesday, with absolutely no luck at all, and this has included a one hour call to FS tech support. In the interim, I've been running System Access over the internet, just to have some speech on the machine. Having had this experience, I would be hard-pressed ever to recommend JAWS over simply getting a Mac again. I hope Apple does give FS a run for their money. If this is the best FS can do, they deserve to lose out, whether to Apple, or to a group like Serotek. Cheers, Donna On Jun 5, 2010, at 12:42 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > Off topic, but I feel everyone will be interested especially those people who run Fusion on their Macs. > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: "Ibrahim Gucukoglu" <[email protected]> >> Date: June 5, 2010 9:36:33 AM GMT+01:00 >> To: "Kawal Gucukoglu" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Fw: [bcab] End of Freedom? >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin r. Howard" >> <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; >> <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; >> <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 1:30 AM >> Subject: [bcab] End of Freedom? >> >> >>> Greetings, >>> >>> I am posting the main text from a thread just seen on the Blind >>> Audio List which I am surprised not to have seen on the BCAB or AccessUK groups. >>> >>> Ought we to give much credence to this? >>> >>> I, for one, would welcome any comments from Sight and Sound. >>> >>> From: "Otto Zamora" <[email protected]> >>> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 05:44:14 -0400 >>> >>> Morning, >>> >>> In an advocate meeting yesterday, the subject came up reference >>> Freedom Scientific, the company that among other things sports JFw. >>> Because the company is in the state of Florida, it came up on a >>> flag by an analyst. >>> Seems this company is having bad money troubles, not surprising >>> given the economy, but talk is that they are now looking to sell off >>> some of their division, mainly their JFW area. >>> I am not sure who if anyone will buy this division, considering that >>> there is an entity now selling a fully integrated package for only $700. >>> Besides a comprehensive screen reader, if the user chooses to get >>> the package, there is a browser, along with a customed and fully >>> accessible web sites, word processing, and E mail. >>> all of this can apparently be accessed either on line, or as >>> individual program. >>> ad to that, the entertainment mogill, and you have a powerful tool >>> indeed for the kind of money they are asking for. >>> Another side of the equation is the apple company, now selling >>> computers already with speech on board right out of the box and off the shelf. >>> Put these two aspects together, and you have a deadly combo that >>> might very well result in a abrupt end to the JFW program. >>> Considering the way that technology is growing, older versions of >>> JFW, will only work for a short while until the programs controlling >>> the OS, begins to outgrow the application. >>> In seeing this package, one of the things which was pointed out to >>> me, was the learning curve, which for the new package being sold by >>> Mr.. Mike Calvo, is very short. >>> The user has the option to learn as little or as much as they want >>> without real loss. From: "Alison Trelfa" <[email protected]> >>> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 15:36:47 +0100 >>> >>> Hello, Otto, >>> >>> I wonder whether many jaws users would move to another speech >>> program as yet as many of the packages that are not standard >>> probably wouldn't be supported by the out of the box speech. I run >>> Sonar and Sibelius 5.25, both of which are using scripts that have >>> been written by folk who specialise not only in Jaws, but only in >>> the two programs. I suppose those people who only need computers for >>> basic commands may well get away with speech such as you describe, >>> but I don't think that Jaws would just be dismissed out of hand >>> because Freedom is going. I think Jaws has changed hands once before if I'm not mistaken? Correct me if I'm wrong there. >>> >>> I would be very sorry to see Jaws go under, but I'm not worried yet. >>> There is a huge following for Jaws and I believe that someone would take it over. >>> >>> From: "Otto Zamora" <[email protected]> >>> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:49:36 -0400 >>> >>> hi, >>> >>> You are correct, I am just stating that from what we were told, they >>> are having a hard time finding someone who will take on the >>> project,especially since as you point out, most people are not >>> using anything that is high end, and from what we also have heard, >>> people are tired of having to pay >>> $1500 and change, when there now is a program which will do speech >>> and more for only $700. >>> Given the economy, for many people, the sedition may be financial. >>> >>> >>> From: Geoff Long <[email protected]> >>> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:20:04 +0100 >>> >>> Hi Alison, I wonder how many JAWS users have to pay for their own >>> equipment. I use window-eyes, which is considerably less expensive, >>> and as I had to pay for my training and kit from my own pocket, it >>> makes a big difference. >>> >>> From: "Dr Norman Waddington" <[email protected]> >>> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 16:36:22 +0100 >>> >>> Hi Geoff, >>> >>> I need no introduction to you on this list. >>> >>> I am a Jaws user and have paid all the way through out of my own >>> pocket from version 3.5 methinks if I remember correctly. >>> >>> >>> From: Anders Holmberg <[email protected]> >>> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 17:37:37 +0200 >>> >>> Hello! >>> Also we have nvda as a very good and free alternative. >>> And Hal or supernova which costs less money than jaws. >>> From: "Mike Stewart" <[email protected]> >>> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 10:58:45 -0600 >>> >>> The entry price is steep, but upgrades only run about $100-$140 or so... >>> >>> From: "Alison Trelfa" <[email protected]> >>> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 21:31:33 +0100 >>> >>> Hi, Geoff, >>> >>> It is expensive to get jaws I agree with that. The problem I have is >>> that there are no other programs that support the music side as far >>> as I know. If all programs worked as well as microsoft office or >>> outlook express then I think Jaws would really be struggling. Most >>> of the other programs that I know of don't support many programs apart from the basics. >>> >>> >>> >>> From Colin Howard, for whom a small place near Southampton in >>> Southern England, has the honour of providing a home. >>> To find out more about BCAB and the benefits that membership can bring, please visit our website: >>> http://www.bcab.org.uk/ >>> >>> To manage your subscription to the BCAB mailing list, please visit our website: >>> http://www.bcab.org.uk/mailing-list.html >>> >>> To discuss matters relating to the mailing list, please email >>> [email protected] >> > > > > ____ > Kawal Gucukoglu > > (E-mail/MSN): > > [email protected] > > (Skype ID): > > kawalgucukoglu > > (Mobile/Text): > > +447905618396 > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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