Hi Simon, Why are you suggesting that she install JAWS 10 first? Just curious. Thanks, Donna On Jun 7, 2010, at 6:00 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
> You'd be crazy to go vista over windows 7. > Windows 7 is far better than vista. Put seven on and then make sure the > User access control is turned off and install jaws 10 first then install > jaws 11. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kimberly thurman > Sent: Monday, 7 June 2010 2:12 a.m. > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [bcab] End of Freedom? > > This is good to know. I may just suck it up and put it on the Vista > machine. > On Jun 6, 2010, at 4:54 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: > >> Interesting, >> >> I've got windows 7 on 5 different machines, including vm fusion on my >> mac book pro. >> And I only had issues on the first install with the jaws video >> intercept not installing correctly. >> >> Other than that, I've had no trouble with windows 7 and jaws playing >> together nicely. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin >> Sent: Sunday, 6 June 2010 5:17 a.m. >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: [bcab] End of Freedom? >> >> Just to add to this, this week I inherited a PC that my husband isn't >> using. It's a fairly new computer running Windows 7, and I've been >> trying to install JAWS on it since Wednesday, with absolutely no luck >> at all, and this has included a one hour call to FS tech support. In >> the interim, I've been running System Access over the internet, just >> to have some speech on the machine. Having had this experience, I >> would be hard-pressed ever to recommend JAWS over simply getting a Mac >> again. I hope Apple does give FS a run for their money. If this is >> the best FS can do, they deserve to lose out, whether to Apple, or to a > group like Serotek. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> On Jun 5, 2010, at 12:42 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >> >>> Off topic, but I feel everyone will be interested especially those >>> people >> who run Fusion on their Macs. >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>>> From: "Ibrahim Gucukoglu" <ibrahim_gucuko...@sent.com> >>>> Date: June 5, 2010 9:36:33 AM GMT+01:00 >>>> To: "Kawal Gucukoglu" <kawal_gucuko...@sent.com> >>>> Subject: Fw: [bcab] End of Freedom? >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin r. Howard" >>>> <co...@pobox.com> >>>> To: <b...@freelists.org>; <access...@freelists.org>; >>>> <av...@googlegroups.com>; <ntexpr...@googlegroups.com>; >>>> <jaws...@freelists.org> >>>> Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 1:30 AM >>>> Subject: [bcab] End of Freedom? >>>> >>>> >>>>> Greetings, >>>>> >>>>> I am posting the main text from a thread just seen on the Blind >>>>> Audio List which I am surprised not to have seen on the BCAB or >>>>> AccessUK >> groups. >>>>> >>>>> Ought we to give much credence to this? >>>>> >>>>> I, for one, would welcome any comments from Sight and Sound. >>>>> >>>>> From: "Otto Zamora" <donttreado...@bellsouth.net> >>>>> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 05:44:14 -0400 >>>>> >>>>> Morning, >>>>> >>>>> In an advocate meeting yesterday, the subject came up reference >>>>> Freedom Scientific, the company that among other things sports JFw. >>>>> Because the company is in the state of Florida, it came up on a >>>>> flag by an analyst. >>>>> Seems this company is having bad money troubles, not surprising >>>>> given the economy, but talk is that they are now looking to sell >>>>> off some of their division, mainly their JFW area. >>>>> I am not sure who if anyone will buy this division, considering >>>>> that there is an entity now selling a fully integrated package for only > $700. >>>>> Besides a comprehensive screen reader, if the user chooses to get >>>>> the package, there is a browser, along with a customed and fully >>>>> accessible web sites, word processing, and E mail. >>>>> all of this can apparently be accessed either on line, or as >>>>> individual program. >>>>> ad to that, the entertainment mogill, and you have a powerful tool >>>>> indeed for the kind of money they are asking for. >>>>> Another side of the equation is the apple company, now selling >>>>> computers already with speech on board right out of the box and off >>>>> the >> shelf. >>>>> Put these two aspects together, and you have a deadly combo that >>>>> might very well result in a abrupt end to the JFW program. >>>>> Considering the way that technology is growing, older versions of >>>>> JFW, will only work for a short while until the programs >>>>> controlling the OS, begins to outgrow the application. >>>>> In seeing this package, one of the things which was pointed out to >>>>> me, was the learning curve, which for the new package being sold by >>>>> Mr.. Mike Calvo, is very short. >>>>> The user has the option to learn as little or as much as they want >>>>> without real loss. From: "Alison Trelfa" <codamu...@uwclub.net> >>>>> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 15:36:47 +0100 >>>>> >>>>> Hello, Otto, >>>>> >>>>> I wonder whether many jaws users would move to another speech >>>>> program as yet as many of the packages that are not standard >>>>> probably wouldn't be supported by the out of the box speech. I run >>>>> Sonar and Sibelius 5.25, both of which are using scripts that have >>>>> been written by folk who specialise not only in Jaws, but only in >>>>> the two programs. I suppose those people who only need computers >>>>> for basic commands may well get away with speech such as you >>>>> describe, but I don't think that Jaws would just be dismissed out >>>>> of hand because Freedom is going. I think Jaws has changed hands >>>>> once before if >> I'm not mistaken? Correct me if I'm wrong there. >>>>> >>>>> I would be very sorry to see Jaws go under, but I'm not worried yet. >>>>> There is a huge following for Jaws and I believe that someone would >>>>> take >> it over. >>>>> >>>>> From: "Otto Zamora" <donttreado...@bellsouth.net> >>>>> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:49:36 -0400 >>>>> >>>>> hi, >>>>> >>>>> You are correct, I am just stating that from what we were told, >>>>> they are having a hard time finding someone who will take on the >>>>> project,especially since as you point out, most people are not >>>>> using anything that is high end, and from what we also have heard, >>>>> people are tired of having to pay >>>>> $1500 and change, when there now is a program which will do speech >>>>> and more for only $700. >>>>> Given the economy, for many people, the sedition may be financial. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Geoff Long <ge...@tisab.demon.co.uk> >>>>> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:20:04 +0100 >>>>> >>>>> Hi Alison, I wonder how many JAWS users have to pay for their own >>>>> equipment. I use window-eyes, which is considerably less >>>>> expensive, and as I had to pay for my training and kit from my own >>>>> pocket, it makes a big difference. >>>>> >>>>> From: "Dr Norman Waddington" <normanwaddington...@btinternet.com> >>>>> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 16:36:22 +0100 >>>>> >>>>> Hi Geoff, >>>>> >>>>> I need no introduction to you on this list. >>>>> >>>>> I am a Jaws user and have paid all the way through out of my own >>>>> pocket from version 3.5 methinks if I remember correctly. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> >>>>> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 17:37:37 +0200 >>>>> >>>>> Hello! >>>>> Also we have nvda as a very good and free alternative. >>>>> And Hal or supernova which costs less money than jaws. >>>>> From: "Mike Stewart" <stewar...@verizon.net> >>>>> Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 10:58:45 -0600 >>>>> >>>>> The entry price is steep, but upgrades only run about $100-$140 or > so... >>>>> >>>>> From: "Alison Trelfa" <codamu...@uwclub.net> >>>>> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 21:31:33 +0100 >>>>> >>>>> Hi, Geoff, >>>>> >>>>> It is expensive to get jaws I agree with that. The problem I have >>>>> is that there are no other programs that support the music side as >>>>> far as I know. If all programs worked as well as microsoft office >>>>> or outlook express then I think Jaws would really be struggling. >>>>> Most of the other programs that I know of don't support many >>>>> programs apart >> from the basics. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From Colin Howard, for whom a small place near Southampton in >>>>> Southern England, has the honour of providing a home. >>>>> To find out more about BCAB and the benefits that membership can >>>>> bring, >> please visit our website: >>>>> http://www.bcab.org.uk/ >>>>> >>>>> To manage your subscription to the BCAB mailing list, please visit >>>>> our >> website: >>>>> http://www.bcab.org.uk/mailing-list.html >>>>> >>>>> To discuss matters relating to the mailing list, please email >>>>> bcab-moderat...@freelists.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ____ >>> Kawal Gucukoglu >>> >>> (E-mail/MSN): >>> >>> kawal_gucuko...@sent.com >>> >>> (Skype ID): >>> >>> kawalgucukoglu >>> >>> (Mobile/Text): >>> >>> +447905618396 >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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