You bring up some good points. If I can use the wireless then I do but if I use the 3g It will be limited to a bit of streaming, haytell, skype when I can get it to work but not for 72 hour calls like I do on the wireless. lol! I was actually surprised I was able to stream the 96kbps stereo for the 30 seconds before my phone yelled at me. lol.
On Jun 17, 2010, at 8:51 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: > You know, I was angry about this. The more I think about it, though, the more > I like it. > > Recently, when I travel to any large urban center in the US, network > performance on my phone becomes degraded. Didn't used to be that way. Has > become much worse in the last year or so. I know that is because, in large > part, to all of the bazillion people on their iPhones. Previously, those > people either didn't care, or didn't know enough, to affectively do anything > on a smartphone that would consume a lot of bandwidth. Now, anyone can go get > a cheap iPhone, and start lapping up all the bandwidth for $30 per month. You > don't need many of those people in your area before most of the network > capacity is gone. > > Sure, data will cost a bit more now. I'd like to pay less, but I can afford > to pay more. However, paying more has the added benefit that most people > won't be able to pay more, or at least will carefully consider what they're > doing before they leave Pandora running on their iPhone all day at their > desk, sucking up all of the capacity in the cell, etc. They'll be worried > about bills now, which means they'll stay off the network, which means more > bandwidth for me. > > I've noticed that just about any business that offers all you can use or all > you can eat service starts to quickly drop off in quality. Think of those web > hosting companies that promise unlimited bandwidth. Sure, the bandwidth for > your site is unlimited, just like the bandwidth for the other thousand sites > that they host are unlimited. The result is that you can download all you > want, at a snail's pace. Who goes to a buffet restaurant for fine dining? > It's better to pay a company a fee that actually manages to cover the costs > for the service that they provide. If not, well, you descend in to the > wonderfully high quality of unlimited web hosting and buffet dining. I think > that I get more upset with AT&T's network being clogged than I am about the > price. If I can pay more to have it work well, then sign me up. > > Bryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Thurman > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 7:25 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Install iOS 4 today! > > how do you figure that if you don't actually USE your phone maybe, but i > want an I phone for streaming and data NOT for yapping onthe phone i also > want it for the echlink client and skype. i almost never talk on the > telephone. and i can suck down 2 gb in a day I'd imagine. a couple hours of > streaming audio a week and I'd bus tmy limit. at and t just needs to get off > thier can and fix their outdated infastructure! it's not like I'm tryinh o > ownload movies but 2 gb can't be worth anything and god forbid i ever did > want to listen to something from netflix or huly great job the i pad will > have an ap for netflix just in time for at and t to kill of any chance of > acutlaly using it except at home. if I have to be home to stream audio with > my I phone that I was going to buy I'd jus tuse my laptop On Jun 17, 2010, at > 6:48 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> It sounds like your just mad for the sake of being mad. ATT is not screwing >> people over data prices per say. It is just the feeling of having limits >> placed on you. The timing was definitely grimy but, most people will end up >> saving money in the long run. >> On Jun 17, 2010, at 6:39 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: >> >>> what is unethical is the fact that apple doesn't kick at and t in the ball >>> sof r screwing us ont he data prices!!!!!!! i doubt i wil be getting a new >>> I phone becuase of the screw job at and t is doing to us and verizon will >>> surely screw us as well beofre they get the I phone it was expensive enugh >>> beofre at and t decided to piss on all of us who want to get an I phone >>> as for trying a beta it's a beta get real On Jun 12, 2010, at 10:17 >>> AM, Kaare Dehard wrote: >>> >>>> right on scott the huge wait time is absolutely staggering, and to be >>>> blunt jumping ahead of the line to install unsanctioned product just >>>> because we can is a bit of a kick in the nuts to a company that has made >>>> itself usable out of the box for us. It's not only free, but jumping ahead >>>> is not only a touch unethical considering, but a touch rude to boot. >>>> On 2010-06-12, at 8:58 AM, Scott Howell wrote: >>>> >>>>> Considering the fact that unless you are a developer and obtained the >>>>> beta via legitimate means, I cannot believe you have the nerve to ask how >>>>> to install/upgrade software you are not entitled to use. I hope no one >>>>> provides you with any help on this list. Perhaps waiting for the >>>>> official release makes even more sense and wow, you would have to wait >>>>> one entire week. >>>>> On Jun 12, 2010, at 8:06 AM, Jørgen Skov Nielsen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I have downloaded the iphone os 4, and the itunes beta. >>>>>> How can i do that, i have tryed to check for updates, but i can't >>>>>> find the boks, there i can shose the file with the update i have >>>>>> downloaded. >>>>>> Are there anyone, there have tryed to upgrade to i os 4. >>>>>> Best regards >>>>>> Jorgen >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2010/6/11, Scott Howell <[email protected]>: >>>>>>> Man you guys really cant' wait another week or so? How do you >>>>>>> know what your downloading has not been hacked and has malicious >>>>>>> code installed. Of course at the very least, do you not respect >>>>>>> the fact that these downloads are illegal or certainly are not in >>>>>>> line with Apples policy. I can't wait either, but these are not >>>>>>> legitimate sources and you do not know what your getting. >>>>>>> On Jun 11, 2010, at 2:00 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm running IOS 4 from www.myiphoneactivation.com. check it out >>>>>>>> all of the betas are there >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I will be preordering the iPhone 4G on Tuesday, I'm very excited for >>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cody >>>>>>>> On Jun 11, 2010, at 12:56 AM, Justin Thornton wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> hi when I go to down the actual os 4 file the torrent file is >>>>>>>>> gone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 9, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The problem is I'm not registered witht he apps store so I >>>>>>>>>> don't think I can install os4. Can I? >>>>>>>>>> On Jun 9, 2010, at 12:43 PM, Søren Jensen wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Wow. Thanks for that great info, and we don't brake any laws >>>>>>>>>>> by doing that. We don't crack any software. You only install >>>>>>>>>>> free apps and updates. >>>>>>>>>>> Best regards >>>>>>>>>>> Søren Jensen >>>>>>>>>>> Mail & MSN: >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> Website: >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Den Jun 9, 2010 kl. 7:07 PM skrev David Hole: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi folkes. >>>>>>>>>>>> For you interested in installing iOS 4 today, you can do that. >>>>>>>>>>>> Since the guide how to do it is in Norwegian, i suggest you >>>>>>>>>>>> translate it with http://translate.google.com/ Here's the >>>>>>>>>>>> guide: http://www.itavisen.no/844413/install >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -David >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit 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