well you know like I said vo does have the control option command shift space command for mouse down and mouse up, however it doesn't seem to stick which was my original issue I had but oh well. but now if someone enabled the announcement of items under the mouse thing and then used the mouse, I suppose you could drag that way but even that wasn't too successful for me On Jul 1, 2010, at 6:33 PM, Tinker Tweak wrote:
> Yes I do think it is getting funny but the laugh is on us who cannot use an > important feature. > > I really believe all that is needed for cut and paste using just the > keyboard is already there in the OS since drag and drop for the visual user > is really cut and paste only with another name and mouse driven. > > I don't know whether to cry or laugh when somebody comes up saying that cut > and paste is very dangerous because drag and drop has the same function or > end result anyway only with a different way of doing the same and minus the > keyboard support. > > Why not us Mac blind users just petition Apple to put a keyboard shortcut > for their drag and drop? Maybe then we could do away with Windows all > together. Smile. > > I raised a similar issue when I was a new Mac user and got my head chewed > off for the effort. LOL! I sincerely hope we could be objective and not be > counterproductively zealots for one particular thing or another. We could > help each other with our different needs. I don't have to be in disagreement > just because a particular feature is not important to me. If it is not going > to harm me and it could be useful to someone else, then by all means I will > support you brother! Grin. > > Vic > > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cody Hurst > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 3:28 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another? > > this is very funny how this thread has gotten so very > philisophical.....laughs > On Jul 1, 2010, at 2:13 PM, Tinker Tweak wrote: > >> Respectfully . Maybe you were moving files or folders from one drive >> letter to another. So if that were the case, then the time to move will be >> the same as in copying. But when you only move files and folders to a >> different location but within the same drive, then it will only take a few >> seconds. I just verifyed this using windows 7 andwindows xp moving 13.7 gb >> of mp3 files. >> >> >> Vic >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami >> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 1:14 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to > another? >> >> Not in my case. I moved 4 gigs of stuff and it took almosst 3 to 54 > minutes >> or there abouts to do it. I was timing it. and this was on a windows >> machine. >> >> there might be a different thing for the mac but yeah. >> >> S >> On Jul 1, 2010, at 7:48 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: >> >>> When you move a file, the computer just changes info stored on the drive >> about where the file is stored. It doesn't have to spend time actually >> making another copy. That's why people want to move instead of copy. > Copying >> a 1GB folder takes as long as is required to copy 1GB of data. Moving a > 1GB >> folder is almost instant. >>> >>> Bryan >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 10:53 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to >> another? >>> >>> When dragging and dropping, aren't you just copying and pasting anyhow? > If >> one were to compare what is actually happening with the files, wouldn't it >> take just as long to drag and drop a 1-gig file as copying and pasting it? >>> >>> Teresa >>> On Jun 30, 2010, at 6:17 AM, John J Herzog wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Teresa, >>>> I wanted to comment on your suggestion that it is easier to copy and >> paste versus drag and drop. I'm afraid that, for time reasons alone, drag >> and drop would be far more useful than copying and pasting currently is. >> When you drag and drop something from one place to another, it is almost >> instantaneous. By contrast, copying something that is multiple gigabytes, >> like an Itunes library for instance, takes quite a while. So, for time > sake >> alone, dragging and dropping would be a far easier method of moving things >> from one spot to another, if only we could utilize it. >>>> Now, however, you have to copy something to a new location, remembering, >> of course, to delete the previous one if you don't want it any longer, > which >> takes a good amount of time. For this reason, I wish drag and drop would > be >> implemented in voiceover. >> >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:38 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Now that I think of it, I do remember asking myself if I could live >> without a "cut" feature as I looked at some Mac tutorials. So I actually >> knew about that one going in. I figure if I wasn't happy with a basic >> feature of an OS, I wouldn't use the OS. >> >>>>> >>>>> As for dragging and dropping, it might be a good idea to know how to do >> it, but probably in the same way that it's a good idea to know how to make >> bricks. You just might use it someday, but if there's a simpler way to do >> it, chances are you'll mostly use that instead. >>>>> >>>>> Teresa >>>>> On Jun 30, 2010, at 3:46 AM, Kaare Dehard wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> there used to be, an probably still is an automator work flow that > used >> to simulate drag, drop and remove. This unavailability of cut at the os >> level has probably saved a number of tech support reps irate phonecalls > and >> is not likely to go awyay... >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Kaare. >>>>>> On 2010-06-30, at 3:30 AM, Cody Hurst wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> this is strange, I think someone on here said they used it in >>>>>>> leopard. I wonder if there is a setting that needs to be changed why >> would it work on one machine and not another On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:37 PM, >> Teresa Cochran wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How odd. I've used the copy and paste commands numerous times to > move >> applications from the downloads folder to the apps folder. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Teresa >>>>>>>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Chris Moore wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Such a basic function, even Win-doze can do it. What were Apple >> thinking of? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Do they not think we can be trusted with a virtual pair of >>>>>>>>> scissors? (frown) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Apart from scripts, I wonder if there are any hacks to override >>>>>>>>> this. G-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r- On 30 Jun 2010, at 01:18, Chuck >> Reichel wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Chris, >>>>>>>>>> I have Apple care on my mac pro Quad core and have been asking > them >> when drag and drop would be fixed in Snow Leopard. >>>>>>>>>> It works on my g5 box with Leopard thats why I brought it to there >> attention. >>>>>>>>>> They said that they are working on it! >>>>>>>>>> Talk soon >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Chris Moore wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse >> in the past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse. So I > tried >> to use command + x to cut and no joy. However, cut works in text edit > etc. >> I have sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if > they >> come back with anything constructive. Anyone else who has this issue, > then >> please send an email to Apple too. >>>>>>>>>>> On 29 Jun 2010, at 22:21, rossy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> hi , >>>>>>>>>>>> if it can help you here you can find the script move file . >>>>>>>>>>>> this helps for the cut and paste . >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/ >>>>>>>>>>>> let us know if you need help . >>>>>>>>>>>> rossy >>>>>>>>>>>> www.universalaccess.it >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another? >>>>>>>>>>>>> I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I >>>>>>>>>>>>> did not understand how to do this. 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