Brian:
Please pardon the cleche, but I feel your pain.  One thing I learned from my 
Apple trainers is, let everyone else muck around with those updates, until the 
bugs are discovered.  I know, if we all did that, nothing would get done.  
Still, seems to me I know just enough to get into the kind of trouble you're 
now having.  So, I'm crhying geek tears with you<grin>
Good luck

Carolyn
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bryan Smart 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 3:59 AM
  Subject: RE: iPhone signal loss


  Well, 4.01 came out, and I tried to install it. Half way through, iTunes gave 
me error 3004 (what-ever that is), and stopped. Now, the iPhone won't talk, 
won't reboot (black screen), and, when I attach it to the Mac, and iTunes 
starts, iTunes says that it is unable to connect to the iPhone software update 
server. I'm obviously online, since I'm sending this message from the same 
computer where I was trying to update. Looked online, and some other people are 
having this problem, too, with no solution. Been trying to re-update for about 
3 hours now, but no luck. Doesn't look like there is any way to back out the 
update, or reset the phone and restore from a backup, since I get this error 
every time I attach the iPhone. Looks like my phone has been successfully 
bricked.

  Maybe Apple tech support will have a suggestion tomorrow, but, since it 
appears that the phone isn't actually turning on anymore, I'm not sure what 
they'll have me do. Take out the battery and put it back in? That will be a 
trick.

  I'm out of town on business. It was a stupid stupid thing to do to let 
anything of mine be updated while I'm out of town. I suspect I'll be wasting 
expensive time tomorrow tracking down an Apple store, instead of working.

  This sort of stuff is what we supposedly pay more to avoid with Apple 
products. Extremely disappointed.

  Bryan

  -----Original Message-----
  From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose
  Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 6:44 PM
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: iPhone signal loss

  The feedback from the software update will be interesting to say the least.
  People will appear to be getting less signal all the time, regardless of if 
they are left handed or not. The issue of signal los will still be present, but 
since everyone will appear to be getting less signal all the time, it won't be 
as noticeable.

  On 15/07/2010, Carolyn <ch...@q.com> wrote:
  > Now if only someone could get at&t's attention.  I drop more calls 
  > than I do pounds on a diet!  Ok, so my diet has been afailure lately, 
  > but so has at&t in my book.
  >
  > Carolyn
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: Chris Blouch
  >   To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  >   Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:12 PM
  >   Subject: Re: iPhone signal loss
  >
  >
  >   I guess we'll find out at their press conference tomorrow at 10AM 
  > pacific time. Maybe the lawsuit caught their attention.
  >
  >
  > http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/14/apple-to-hold-press-conference-on-i
  > phone-4-this-friday/
  >
  >
  > http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/07/01/apple_sued_over_iphone_4
  > _reception_issues.html
  >
  >   CB
  >
  >   Sarah Alawami wrote:
  > I don't nitice any problems with the left handedness of using the 
  > phone. I get great signel over all right handed or left handed, in or 
  > out of the case and this isn with the new phone.
  >
  > S
  > On Jul 13, 2010, at 12:56 AM, Simon F wrote:
  >
  >   Yeah apple have done great things, that's why they don't appear to 
  > be correcting The issue with the loss of signal on the iPhone 4, when 
  > it's is held in a left hand and the signal is lost.
  >
  > When they fix this issue, they'll sell a lot more.
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug Lawlor
  > Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2010 4:15 p.m.
  > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  > Subject: Re: A warning about Digit-Eyes
  >
  > Maybe an RFID reader will come in the next iPhone or some other 
  > idevice. I think it is just amazing what Apple has done with these 
  > devices thus far. I personally would like to see some sort of haptic 
  > feedback so we can get a tactual sense of icons and controls. I know Apple 
is working on this.
  > Patents have been filed by Apple regarding methods for haptic feedback.
  >
  > Doug
  >
  >
  >
  > Sent from my iPhone
  >
  > On 2010-07-12, at 5:40 PM, Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com> wrote:
  >
  >     Doug, I think this was something APple had explored and may 
  > eventually do. Apple has all sorts of ideas floating about. :) On Jul 12, 
2010, at
  >       2:18 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
  >     No RFID reader in iPhone 4 as far as I can tell. My knowledge is limited
  >         on this subject as well. It may depend on the scanner being used.
  >     Doug
  >
  >
  > Sent from my iPhone
  >
  > On 2010-07-12, at 6:44 AM, Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com> wrote:
  >
  >         Hey Doug,
  >
  > We are probably straying a bit off topic for the list, but to answer
  >           your question, I really do not know. It may be for capturing 
  > information about a specific product, you would have to get pretty 
  > close. The distances you refer too is more useful for warehouses, 
  > dockyards, and such. I am not sure if the ability to read is based on 
  > the scanner or the RFID tag itself.
  > So, I think you can pretty much figure my knowledge is quite limited, 
  > other than what I read. I do not know when Apple might put these 
  > readers in the phone, but I thought it was to be included in version 
  > 4, but that I believe did not happen yet.
  >     On Jul 11, 2010, at 10:10 PM, Doug Lawlor wrote:
  >
  >           That's interesting, RFID would be much better for 
  > identifying products
  >             because you would not have to point a device at the 
  > product in question to identify it. Just get a reader in the general 
  > direztion of the of the product and we should be able to identify it. 
  > As I understand it, the range of RFID is quite large, something in the 
  > range of 30 feet. How do we determine a product when we have a number 
  > of products in one area, a covert full of cans and bottles, each 
  > presenting a signal that has a 30 foot radius?
  >     Doug
  >
  > Sent from my iPhone
  >
  > On 2010-07-11, at 9:33 PM, Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com> wrote:
  >
  >             Doug,
  >
  > I do not know how many products have them now, but I suspect more than
  >               we know. For example, I recently learned that the 
  > recycle bins our county provides us has a RFID chip imbedded in them. 
  > Apparently the data collected from the chips let's the county know how 
  > often we put the bins out. RFID chips are being used more now because 
  > of the speed and ability to collect data on products being shipped and 
  > received, etc.
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