Sandy, This seems rather odd considering the fact regardless of the iPHone, the software should be the same. This is rather interesting. I had not found this information when searching the net, but then that could be a result of using the incorrect search terms. So, just to confirm, do you have the Stowaway?
THanks, On Aug 22, 2010, at 10:57 AM, Sandy Tomkins wrote: > Hi Chris, > > First of all, I must apologise if my message appears both at the top and > the bottom of this thread, I forgot to move the insertion point to the top. > > I discovered from a little researching on the net that only the iPhone 4 > will hold the bluetooth pairing. Hopefully, this will improve with time and > upgrades to the bluetooth stack. Still, either way, this is so much better > than using the soft keyboard isn't it? > > Happy typing, > Sandy. Chris, > > From my researches via Google I discovered that only the iPhone 4 will > stay paired and that the 3Gs won't. Sorry about that, but, as with many > things, many people are working on this and improvements in the inbuilt > drivers may well sort this for you. > > Happy typing! > > Sandy. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 22 Aug 2010, at 13:53, Scott Howell <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Sandy, >> >> I have an iPhone 3GS using iOS 4.0.2 . I also have the Think Outside >> Stowaway bluetooth keyboard. I have had no problem getting it paired, but I >> cannot close it and reopen and press a key to reestablish the connection. I >> am always forced to put the keyboard into pairing mode via control-left >> function-right function and tap connect on the bluetooth menu of the iPhone. >> I was curious if you have this keyboard and if so, how did you get it to >> reconnect when opening the keyboard and pressing a key. >> >> THanks, >> >> On Aug 22, 2010, at 6:39 AM, Sandy Tomkins wrote: >> >>> Hi Ester, >>> Just a comment re the Think Outside keyboard: I am using it with my iPhone >>> and find that with the iPhone 4, at least, there is no need to repair the >>> bluetooth after breaking the connection. Mine just reconnects as soon as I >>> touch a key. So this is great! >>> >>> Thanks for the super description of the keys, I have forgotten where most >>> of the are, so reading your mail will be very useful. >>> >>> Ciao, Sandy. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 22 Aug 2010, at 01:56, Esther <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Anne, >>>> >>>> You wrote: >>>> >>>>> I, too, have one of the mini BlueTooth keyboards but the keys are >>>>> definitely not rubberised. >>>>> >>>>> The only problem I have with it is that it doesn't seem to have a grave >>>>> accent dead key. It has other accent keys such as acute, circumflex, >>>>> diaeresis, tilde and C-cedilla as well as the grave accent on its own. >>>>> >>>>> I gather there is an azerty version of the keyboard available from the >>>>> manufacturer, so I wonder if that one has the grave accent dead key. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Anne >>>> >>>> I'm cc'ing this to the macvisionaries list, since it may be of general >>>> interest. >>>> >>>> Can you use any of the control key sequences on your mini Bluetooth >>>> keyboard to change the keyboard input language for you iPhone analogous to >>>> using Command+Space on the Apple Wireless Keyboard? I've heard that on >>>> some keyboards, the Windows key will act like the Command key. You might >>>> also try using Control+Space, since I can also use some shortcuts when >>>> pressing the Control key in place of the Command key (e.g., in >>>> Command+Left or Right Arrow for movement to beginning or end of line, or >>>> Command+Up or Down Arrow for movement to beginning or end of document). >>>> >>>> I've just received one of the Think Outside Stowaway keyboards that Karl >>>> Smith posted about, and as I'd read, the Command key (alternatively >>>> labeled as a "Windows" key) works like the Command key on a Mac keyboard. >>>> I can also use the dead keys in combination with the "Alt/Option" key to >>>> type accents. The grave accent dead key can be accessed, but in a bit of >>>> an odd way on this keyboard: you need to press the left "Fn" key (key just >>>> to the left of the space bar) in combination with the >>>> "apostrophe/quotation mark (when shifted)" key to the left of the Enter >>>> key in order to generate an "accent". Holding down the Shift key with >>>> this combination (e.g., "Shift"+left "Fn"+apostrophe) or, since >>>> Shift+"apostrophe"="quotation mark", using left "Fn"+"quotation mark", >>>> generates a tilde. This is normally the key to the left of the row of >>>> numbers, just above the tab key, on the Mac or Apple Wireless keyboards >>>> (e.g. "accent"/"tilde" when the Shift key is pressed). >>>> >>>> If I press Alt+left "Fn"+apostrophe (for the grave accent combination) and >>>> then press a letter key like "e" or "a", I'll hear the accented letter "e >>>> grave" or "a grave". >>>> >>>> Further, if I used Command+Space to switch to a Canadian French input >>>> keyboard, pressing the "apostrophe" key (just to the left of the Enter >>>> key), will type "e grave" directly. And, should I wish to switch to a >>>> French AZERTY keyboard (shudder <smile>), I can press the "backslash" key >>>> (key furthest to the right on a Mac or Apple Wireless English input >>>> keyboard, just above the Enter key and below the delete key) which key is, >>>> on the Stowaway keyboard, located below the Enter key and above the delete >>>> key at the far right, and then next pressing the letter "e" will produce >>>> an "e grave", just as if I had used a French input language keyboard >>>> setting on my Mac, or Apple Wireless keyboard. I hope this isn't too >>>> confusing, or at least, that Anne is able to follow what I'm saying. >>>> >>>> It may help to give a description of the layout of the Think Outside >>>> Stowaway keyboard. It is standard QWERTY with full-size keys, but uses >>>> only four rows, and has 51 keys (really only 50 distinct keys, since the >>>> space bar key is split into left and right halves where the keyboard >>>> folds). The top row of number keys are typed by pressing the >>>> corresponding QWERTY keys in combination with a left "Fn" key to get the >>>> regular numbers (1 through 9, 0, hyphen, and equal sign), and in >>>> combination with a right "Fn" key to get the shifted number keys (on a >>>> U.S. English language keyboard this is "!", "@", "#", "$", "%", "^", "&", >>>> "*", "(", ")", "_", and "+"). The left and right "Fn" keys are >>>> immediately to the left or right of the space bar on the bottom row. The >>>> back space/delete key from the top right end of the row of numbers has >>>> been move to lie at the right end of the top QWERTY row, just to the right >>>> of the left and right bracket keys beside the "P" key. This displaces the >>>> "backslash"/"vertical bar" key that normally falls at the right end of the >>>> QWERTY row, and this key moves down two rows to become a short key just to >>>> the right of the "Shift" key on the "ZXC" row of keys, with the >>>> "backslash" and "vertical" line functions accessed by pressing the right >>>> "Fn" key with this key, and adding a "shift", as well, to get the >>>> "vertical line" function. The second row of ASDFG keys is just the same >>>> as on the Macbook and Apple Wireless keyboards -- it starts with a caps >>>> lock key at the left, and ends with the Enter (or "Return") key at the >>>> right. The third row of ZXC keys is also the same as on a Macbook or >>>> Apple Wireless keyboard, save for the addition of a key to the right of >>>> the "Shift" key that we've already mentioned. One modification has been >>>> made to accommodate use of an inverted T set of arrow keys: the key to the >>>> left of the "Shift" key functions normally as a "?" key when shifted, but >>>> acts as an "Up arrow" key when the shift key is not used. The unshifted >>>> function of "slash" has been moved to the extra key to the right of the >>>> "Shift" key -- the same key that, when pressed together with the right >>>> "Fn" key gives "backslash" and with "Shift"+Right "Fn" key gives "vertical >>>> line". Actually "vertical line" can be typed either with right "Fn" >>>> key+Shift+ this key or with left "Fn" key (without a Shift) + this key. >>>> The other arrow keys of the inverted "T" follow in position, with the >>>> "down arrow" below "up arrow", and the left and right arrow keys to either >>>> side of the "down arrow" key on the bottom row of keys. The inverted "T" >>>> is flanked by the right "Fn" key on the left, and the "delete" key at the >>>> right, marking the right end of the bottom of the keyboard. In order, the >>>> keys in the bottom row of the keyboard are: "Control", "Command/Window", >>>> "Alt/Option", "Left Fn", "Left Space Bar", "Right Space Bar" (reflecting >>>> the "fold" in the keyboard running through the space bar), "Right Fn", >>>> "Left Arrow", "Down Arrow", "Right Arrow", and "Delete". >>>> >>>> The feel of the key surfaces is very much like the surface of the Apple >>>> Wireless Keyboard, and the "F" and "J" keys are marked with the same >>>> reference raised horizontal bars at the bottom of those keys. >>>> >>>> I'd encourage any non-English speaker who has a Bluetooth keyboard that >>>> has a Windows key, or any key that might act as a "Command" key on a Mac, >>>> to check whether they can press Command+Space to switch to another input >>>> language keyboard format, if this has been set up under Settings > General >>>> > International Keyboards. I know that Krister has asked about support of >>>> Swedish language keyboards, and Anne has asked about AZERTY support for >>>> the mini-Bluetooth keyboard. >>>> >>>> The Think Outside Stowaway Keyboard runs on two AAA batteries. Pairing is >>>> initiated by putting the device into Bluetooth discovery mode by holding >>>> down the Control key together with both the Left and Right Fn keys. At >>>> this point you are prompted to type in a series of numbers followed by a >>>> press of the enter key to pair the keyboard. You have to hold down the >>>> left Fn key while you press the keys for the numbers, then release the >>>> left Fn key and press the enter key to pair. >>>> >>>> If you break the connection (by closing up the keyboard, which >>>> automatically turns the device off, or by pressing the Control+Left and >>>> Right Fn keys), you have to go through pairing again -- re-establishing >>>> the connection is not automatic, as with the Apple Wireless Keyboard. The >>>> keyboard is fairly sturdy for its build, given the light weight, and the >>>> two halves are held rigid by the mechanism once opened. There's a stand >>>> for the handheld or iPhone that flips up from the top of the keyboard, and >>>> which can be detached from the main keyboard to hold/support your iPhone >>>> or iPod Touch. The size, when opened is 9.9" x 5.8" x 0.5" (251 mm x 148 >>>> mm x 13 mm) and the weight is 160g (5.6oz). This is nearly an inch >>>> shorter than the Apple Wireless and about 60% of it's width. When closed, >>>> the keyboard is 5.5" x 3.9" x 0.5" (139 mm x 99 mm x 13 mm), or about 20% >>>> longer than an iPhone or iPod Touch, and maybe half again as wide. >>>> >>>> Here's an old 9-May-06 review of the "Think Outside Stowaway Bluetooth >>>> Keyboard" by Brandon Miniman at pocketnow.com, that describes the keyboard >>>> I received: >>>> http://pocketnow.com/review/think-outside-stowaway-bluetooth-mouse-and-universal-keyboard >>>> >>>> This keyboard came with a CD (presumably of drivers for use with different >>>> hand-held devices), but the only this I used the CD for was to read the >>>> User Guide. >>>> >>>> HTH. 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