Pages is in the iWOrk Suite, there is also OpenOffice and Bean (both are free) and there is Nisus Writer Pro. On 27 Sep 2010, at 16:18, ISAAC OBIE wrote:
> Hi, > You have three choices: > 1. Text Edit, > 2. Pages. > 3. Iworks! > and read Rose Morales' note. It's excellent! > Isaac > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheree Heppe" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 10:28 AM > Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver > > >> Cheree Heppe here: >> >> Notepad isn't enough for me, so I am hoping that the Apple alternative to >> Office is comparable. >> >> >> Regards, >> Cheree Heppe >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "ISAAC OBIE" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 2:51 AM >> Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver >> >> >>> Hi Kawal, >>> Frankly, I don't like programs like MS Word because it's too big for what I >>> want to do. It's huge, clumsy and plain a pain in the posterior. I love >>> notepad! I think Notepad can do all I want including cleaning up a file. >>> Now when I really get in to the Mac I think Text edit might do the trick. I >>> honestly don't know yet. Maybe Esther's "Simplenote" might do it. I'll have >>> to explore that at some point. >>> Isaac >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" >>> <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 4:27 AM >>> Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver >>> >>> >>>> I too will be switching to I works rather than working with Microsoft >>>> Products in the future. >>>> >>>> >>>> Kawal Gucukoglu >>>> >>>> On 27 Sep 2010, at 12:53 AM, gkearney <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> It is interesting to note that the ribbons were accessible, much of >>>>> the user interface is as well. It is the main content areas that are >>>>> not accessible. >>>>> >>>>> Greg >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 27, 6:16 am, "Dave Taylor" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> I bet that if they tried, they would soon realise that the ribbons would >>>>>> be >>>>>> difficult if not impossible to implement with VO anyway. As it is, their >>>>>> insistence on these awful things is one of my key drivers for making the >>>>>> switch, though there are many others too. Mike, the podcast where you >>>>>> install Snow Leopard is as good a demonstration as anything of how far >>>>>> things have come on the Mac side, I'm afraid it is the opposite story, >>>>>> almost the reverse story, on the windows side! >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> Dave >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 11:03 PM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't think he said it was a beta. It is very disappointing indeed, >>>>>> really, Microsoft has no excuse for this one, it's not like they were >>>>>> not >>>>>> aware of accessibility and voice over, they just chose not to do >>>>>> anything >>>>>> with it. Apple has created a built in screen reader and provided the >>>>>> APIs to >>>>>> make programs accessible, Microsoft has definitely shown their interest >>>>>> in >>>>>> this. At least on the mac, there are alternatives that will handle >>>>>> Microsoft >>>>>> Office files, namely iwork and open office. >>>>>> On Sep 26, 2010, at 3:18 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello Greg, >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you so much for providing this info. >>>>>> >>>>>>> I cannot begin to relay how sad and disappointed I am at the news of >>>>>>> Microsoft's Office 2011 VoiceOver inaccessibility. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Wow! >>>>>> >>>>>>> You know, when I installed the very first beta of Windows 7, it was >>>>>>> completely accessible. That is to say, as soon as one launched the >>>>>>> installation program for Windows 7, a very clear voice prompt asked if >>>>>> audio >>>>>>> assistance was required. This came as a total surprise to me, to say >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> least. I answered in the affirmative and was able to install Windows 7 >>>>>>> without any sighted assistance, whatsoever. I installed that first >>>>>>> beta >>>>>> on >>>>>>> three of my computers. By the way, the voice that was used to guide me >>>>>>> through the setup was not that of Narrator--it was much clearer. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Astonishingly, with the release of the next beta of Windows 7, this >>>>>> feature >>>>>>> was removed. I was shocked, disappointed, and angry, to say the least. >>>>>> >>>>>>> It was then that I began considering purchasing a Macintosh. >>>>>> >>>>>>> It's been much too long to recall how I came to learn Microsoft's >>>>>>> reason >>>>>> for >>>>>>> removing this feature but they said they removed it for security >>>>>>> concerns; >>>>>>> to which I exclaim, "TommyRot!!!!!" Or, to put it in the vernacular, >>>>>>> "That's a load of crap!!!!" >>>>>> >>>>>>> Greg, is it possible that the final release of Office 2011 will be >>>>>> VoiceOver >>>>>>> accessible? I mean, you reviewed a beta, did you not? Perhaps I'm >>>>>>> just >>>>>>> grasping at straws, eh? (Smile) >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks again for giving us a proverbial "heads-up" on this one. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Most Sincerely, >>>>>> >>>>>>> mark >>>>>>> - >>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Greg Kearney >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 1:22 AM >>>>>>> To: [email protected]; [email protected]; Mary >>>>>>> Beth >>>>>>> Janes; Mike Shebanek >>>>>>> Subject: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver >>>>>> >>>>>>> It is my sad duty to report that after getting a chance to test >>>>>>> Microsoft >>>>>>> Office 2011 for Mac that it is no more accessible in this version than >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> any of the previous versions. As in the past it is impossible to >>>>>>> interact >>>>>>> with any of the content areas of the program. You are not able to >>>>>>> review, >>>>>>> read or edit the text area in Word or Excel. >>>>>> >>>>>>> It should not be clear to all that Microsoft has no intention of ever >>>>>> fixing >>>>>>> these issues. I communicated directly with Microsoft over the same >>>>>>> failing >>>>>>> in Office 2008. The fact that after a complete rewire of the programs >>>>>>> they >>>>>>> remain inaccessible to the built in screen reader of the OS to me speak >>>>>>> volumes about Microsoft's total lack of commitment to accessibility on >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> Macintosh platform and may well speak to Microsoft's general commitment >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> the platform as well. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Gregory Kearney | Manager Accessible Media >>>>>>> Association for the Blind of WA - Guide Dogs WA >>>>>>> PO Box 101, Victoria Park WA 6979 | 61 Kitchener Ave, Victoria Park WA >>>>>> 6100 >>>>>>> Tel: 08 9311 8246 | Fax: 08 9361 8696 |www.guidedogswa.com.au >>>>>>> Tel: 307-224-4022 (North America) >>>>>>> Email: [email protected] >>>>>>> Email: [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups >>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group >>>>>>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups >>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group >>>>>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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