Text edit will work fine. I've used it to write and format esays for classes.
S On Sep 27, 2010, at 2:51 AM, ISAAC OBIE wrote: > Hi Kawal, > Frankly, I don't like programs like MS Word because it's too big for what I > want to do. It's huge, clumsy and plain a pain in the posterior. I love > notepad! I think Notepad can do all I want including cleaning up a file. > Now when I really get in to the Mac I think Text edit might do the trick. I > honestly don't know yet. Maybe Esther's "Simplenote" might do it. I'll have > to explore that at some point. > Isaac > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" > <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 4:27 AM > Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver > > >> I too will be switching to I works rather than working with Microsoft >> Products in the future. >> >> >> Kawal Gucukoglu >> >> On 27 Sep 2010, at 12:53 AM, gkearney <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> It is interesting to note that the ribbons were accessible, much of >>> the user interface is as well. It is the main content areas that are >>> not accessible. >>> >>> Greg >>> >>> On Sep 27, 6:16 am, "Dave Taylor" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> I bet that if they tried, they would soon realise that the ribbons would be >>>> difficult if not impossible to implement with VO anyway. As it is, their >>>> insistence on these awful things is one of my key drivers for making the >>>> switch, though there are many others too. Mike, the podcast where you >>>> install Snow Leopard is as good a demonstration as anything of how far >>>> things have come on the Mac side, I'm afraid it is the opposite story, >>>> almost the reverse story, on the windows side! >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo >>>> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 11:03 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver >>>> >>>> I don't think he said it was a beta. It is very disappointing indeed, >>>> really, Microsoft has no excuse for this one, it's not like they were not >>>> aware of accessibility and voice over, they just chose not to do anything >>>> with it. Apple has created a built in screen reader and provided the APIs >>>> to >>>> make programs accessible, Microsoft has definitely shown their interest in >>>> this. At least on the mac, there are alternatives that will handle >>>> Microsoft >>>> Office files, namely iwork and open office. >>>> On Sep 26, 2010, at 3:18 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Greg, >>>> >>>>> Thank you so much for providing this info. >>>> >>>>> I cannot begin to relay how sad and disappointed I am at the news of >>>>> Microsoft's Office 2011 VoiceOver inaccessibility. >>>> >>>>> Wow! >>>> >>>>> You know, when I installed the very first beta of Windows 7, it was >>>>> completely accessible. That is to say, as soon as one launched the >>>>> installation program for Windows 7, a very clear voice prompt asked if >>>> audio >>>>> assistance was required. This came as a total surprise to me, to say the >>>>> least. I answered in the affirmative and was able to install Windows 7 >>>>> without any sighted assistance, whatsoever. I installed that first beta >>>> on >>>>> three of my computers. By the way, the voice that was used to guide me >>>>> through the setup was not that of Narrator--it was much clearer. >>>> >>>>> Astonishingly, with the release of the next beta of Windows 7, this >>>> feature >>>>> was removed. I was shocked, disappointed, and angry, to say the least. >>>> >>>>> It was then that I began considering purchasing a Macintosh. >>>> >>>>> It's been much too long to recall how I came to learn Microsoft's reason >>>> for >>>>> removing this feature but they said they removed it for security concerns; >>>>> to which I exclaim, "TommyRot!!!!!" Or, to put it in the vernacular, >>>>> "That's a load of crap!!!!" >>>> >>>>> Greg, is it possible that the final release of Office 2011 will be >>>> VoiceOver >>>>> accessible? I mean, you reviewed a beta, did you not? Perhaps I'm just >>>>> grasping at straws, eh? (Smile) >>>> >>>>> Thanks again for giving us a proverbial "heads-up" on this one. >>>> >>>>> Most Sincerely, >>>> >>>>> mark >>>>> - >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Greg Kearney >>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 1:22 AM >>>>> To: [email protected]; [email protected]; Mary Beth >>>>> Janes; Mike Shebanek >>>>> Subject: Microsoft Office 2011 and VoiceOver >>>> >>>>> It is my sad duty to report that after getting a chance to test Microsoft >>>>> Office 2011 for Mac that it is no more accessible in this version than in >>>>> any of the previous versions. As in the past it is impossible to interact >>>>> with any of the content areas of the program. You are not able to review, >>>>> read or edit the text area in Word or Excel. >>>> >>>>> It should not be clear to all that Microsoft has no intention of ever >>>> fixing >>>>> these issues. I communicated directly with Microsoft over the same failing >>>>> in Office 2008. The fact that after a complete rewire of the programs they >>>>> remain inaccessible to the built in screen reader of the OS to me speak >>>>> volumes about Microsoft's total lack of commitment to accessibility on the >>>>> Macintosh platform and may well speak to Microsoft's general commitment to >>>>> the platform as well. >>>> >>>>> Gregory Kearney | Manager Accessible Media >>>>> Association for the Blind of WA - Guide Dogs WA >>>>> PO Box 101, Victoria Park WA 6979 | 61 Kitchener Ave, Victoria Park WA >>>> 6100 >>>>> Tel: 08 9311 8246 | Fax: 08 9361 8696 |www.guidedogswa.com.au >>>>> Tel: 307-224-4022 (North America) >>>>> Email: [email protected] >>>>> Email: [email protected] >>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group >>>>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group >>>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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