Esther,

Thanks that is what I intended and stated incorrectly. I did try the voice in 
the reader and it was pretty much a drag, so I just stuck with Preview. It 
works for most my purposes, but for DRM content where you have to enter a user 
ID and/or password, it is incredibly painful and as best I recall I could not 
do it without sighted assistance.
On Sep 28, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hello Marcelo,
> 
> Although it is possible to use Adobe Reader to read PDF files under VoiceOver 
> control, I don't know of any VoiceOver user who prefers to use Adobe Reader 
> over Preview (or another third party software called Skim that goes beyond 
> Preview's capabilities by adding annotation features).  Almost everyone who 
> has switched to VoiceOver comments on how much nicer the experience is 
> reading PDFs with VoiceOver's native apps. (Scott may be thinking of Adobe 
> Acrobat Professional in his reply about accessibility.  It is true that books 
> encoded with Adobe's digital rights management cannot be read with Adobe's 
> software and screen readers, but they do have Adobe Reader for non-protected 
> PDF documents.)
> 
> If you really want to try using Adobe Reader instead of Preview, I can dig 
> out my notes.  Adobe Reader is sufficiently unintuitive that I have to keep a 
> record of the commands.  It uses text to speech rather than VoiceOver's 
> interactive controls.  You also need to check the right menus for the 
> controls, because the speed controls for text to speech speaking rate are set 
> within the app, and the system text to speech speaking rates are bypassed. I 
> ended up having to read through most of its rather complex menu structure.  
> There's a "Read Out Loud" command under the View menu that you'll need to 
> use.  Again, unlike the case with Preview you have more limited control.
> 
> And as Scott said, Firefox is not accessible with VoiceOver.
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Sep 28, 2010, at 08:15, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> Firefox is not accessible at this time. I believe there is someone working 
>> on this, but for now it is Safari pretty much. I believe there are other 
>> browsers such as Opera, but I am not sure how well that works and others can 
>> comment. Preview is your only option for PDFs at this time. Adobe has 
>> decided the Mac platform does not have a sufficient number of users to 
>> invest time in making their products accessible. Well ok, that is what I 
>> gather from things I have read, but again, others may have more information 
>> that is not available to me.
>> 
>> On Sep 28, 2010, at 12:23 PM, marcelo wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello everybody!
>>> 
>>> I am testing Voice Over, and have a lot of questions! ...
>>> 
>>> 1) Anybody knows where can I find a serious report about testing this
>>> application? ...
>>> 
>>> 2) I think Firefox is not accessible with Voice Over, but what about
>>> "Adobe Reader" to read PDF files with Voice Over? ... or must I read
>>> PDF with PREVIEW application while I using Voice Over? ...
>>> 
>>> thanks at all (and sorry for my English!).
>>> 
> 
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