With folders, rather than trying to expand it, it's easier just to press 
command o and open it, much less clutter.
On Dec 16, 2010, at 11:33 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:

> It seems like at level 0 you have to do cmd down arrow but at 1 or 2 you do 
> right arrow, I tried to discover a consistent pattern with this but thus far 
> always at 0 cmd down arrow will open.
> 
> Marlaina
> On Dec 16, 2010, at 6:22 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
> 
> Hi Jim:
> Try using commando to open the folder.  Or, also, command-down-arrow will 
> open the folder for you.  I believe there's something that gets tweeked and 
> changes this pattern of interaction.  Because, there are times when simply 
> right arrowing will open a folder, and there are other times it needs the 
> command-o.
> HTH
> Carolyn Haas
> On Dec 15, 2010, at 5:30 PM, Jim Barbour wrote:
> 
>> Howdy Folks,
>> 
>> Using voice over, I'm trying to bring up a terminal, which is in the
>> applications folder.  So far, I'm failing to figure out how to
>> navigate into and around the Applications folder.
>> 
>> Can someone let me know how to go about this?
>> 
>> Here's what I've tried so far...
>> 
>> VO + d to go to the dock
>> VO + right arrow several times until I hear "applications folder"
>> VO + space to open the folder.
>> 
>> At this point, I can see there's a window on the screen, and if I
>> use the arrow keys to move around inside it, I can see that different
>> icons are being highlighted.  However, VO does not speak.  If I use VO
>> + arrow keys, voice over acts as if I'm still in the doc, even though
>> I've opened this window.
>> 
>> All help would be much appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
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