Hi Jim, Marlaina and all, I'm going to try to help out here. I'll prefix comments with the initials of whoever asked it and place my initials, TK prior to my responses.
JB: Here's what I've tried so far... >> >> VO + d to go to the dock >> VO + right arrow several times until I hear "applications folder" >> VO + space to open the folder. >> >> At this point, I can see there's a window on the screen, and if I >> use the arrow keys to move around inside it, I can see that different >> icons are being highlighted. However, VO does not speak. If I use VO >> + arrow keys, voice over acts as if I'm still in the doc, even though >> I've opened this window. > TK: First, I suggest that you use the key combination cmd-shift-a to quickly access the Applications folder instead of the above method. I would also suggest that you change your windows into another view such as List view or column view, it seems like your windows are in Icon view. I'll explain the differences . Icon view (cmd-1): Organizes your window into a grid format with large icons. List view (cmd-2): Organizes each window into a single list of items. column view (cmd-3): Organizes the window into a list but allows you to branch into columns with ease. Depending on the view you choose, VO will act a little different. If you prefer a specific view, then open a window, press cmd-1, 2, or 3 to put it in your desired format, then press cmd-j to bring up the View Options window, and then check the box that says to open all windows in this format. Press cmd-j again to get rid of the View Options window. I prefer either List or Column view as they are much easier to work with in my opinion. I also, prefer my folders to open in a new window, which is set in the Finder Preferences, just press cmd-comma when at the Desktop and the Finder Prefs will appear. These are just my preferences and I know that there are others who prefer things set differently, so make it work for you. I'll explain how I do things for List view and Column view: List View: 1. Interact with the List view Table. 2. Use VO navigation to go up and down the list. 3. Once you're on the item you wish to open, press cmd-o or VO-space. Each performs the same task. 4. To close a window, you can use cmd-w. If you prefer that your folders open in the same window when in List view, note the following: cmd-down arrow will open the selection, be it volume, folder, file or app. cmd-up arrow will take you to the enclosing or parent folder of the existing item. cmd-right arrow to open a folder. It will not open volumes, files or apps. cmd-left arrow will close the selected folder or close an expanded folder. Column view or Browser view 1. Interact With the Browser. 2. Use arrow keys with or without VO keys to navigate within the window. 3. When you reach the file or app you wish to open, press cmd-o or VO-space. If you use the VO keys when in column view, it is quicker just to press the space while still pressing the VO keys so that you have less hand/finger movement. ML: It seems like at level 0 you have to do cmd down arrow but at 1 or 2 you do right arrow, I tried to discover a consistent pattern with this but thus far always at 0 cmd down arrow will open. > TK: I believe that if you use the methods outlined above when in the specific view, you'll find the action to be consistent. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
