hi,
when i called at&t i was told i would have to sign a new two year contract, and 
that would include the newer data plans. now perhaps the person was wrong, but 
this is exactly what i was told. 

--- On Tue, 1/11/11, Ricardo Walker <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Ricardo Walker <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: =What the Verizon phone means for Apple
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2011, 8:11 AM


What?

If you had the unlimited plan and upgraded to a iPhone 4, you didn't lose 
unlimited data.  Not unless you changed your plan when you upgraded.  I'm 
pretty certain their are people on this list with iPhone 4s with the unlimited 
data plan who can confirm this.

hth

Ricardo Walker
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On Jan 11, 2011, at 8:54 AM, denise avant wrote:

> hi,
> the way this may all play out is with competitive pricing. for example, when 
> i switched to the iphone and thus at&t, i got 100 fewer minutes and a $20.00 
> price increase. at&t tried to tell me i was getting a good deal because i get 
> calls free if i am calling another of its customers. but most of my contacts 
> do not have at&t.
> also, there was nothing for those of us wishing to upgrade from the 3gs to 
> the 4g. and if you did that, kiss your unlimited data plan good-bye.
> i do not know how clear the call signal is on verizon. a friend of mine has a 
> blackberry with US Cellular, and talking on her phone is like talking on a 
> land line.
> so i suspect these will be considerations when discussing customer 
> satisfaction.
> 
> On Jan 11, 2011, at 7:42 AM, Carolyn Haas wrote:
> 
>> Hi Scott:
>> I'd have to agree with you that at&t has generally given me very good and 
>> responsive customer service when I've had to call in.  Their network is 
>> imperfect, as they all are.  BTW: I'm unfamiliar with the term net 
>> neutrality.  Is that a Scottism, or an actuality?:) And what does it refer 
>> to?
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Carolyn H
>> On Jan 11, 2011, at 3:56 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>> 
>>> James,
>>> 
>>> I am not loyal to any company, which I feel has to be stated up front 
>>> because of what I'm going to say next. I have been with AT&T for nearly two 
>>> years and to be honest I have not had any problems with their customer 
>>> service. Only once did they make an error, which was something to do with 
>>> the system and a change I made. They corrected the problem quickly and 
>>> offered me compensation. Now I have had little reason to call customer 
>>> service in any case with either company. I will point out though Verizon 
>>> made life very difficult for me when I opted to switch to AT&T and tried 
>>> charging me early termination fees even though my contract had ended. It 
>>> took me a couple of months to get the issue resolved. So, a lot of this in 
>>> my opinion is expectation about service and of course everyone will have 
>>> different experiences and of course different experience with the service 
>>> as a result of where they live. I have a Verizon cell phone for work and I 
>>> get better
 coverage in my house with AT&T then I do with Verizon, as an example. THe 
point is none of these companies are more interested in making as much money as 
possible. What will be interesting is if Verizon can live up to the hype. What 
I hope as a result of this is more competition in plans. For example, Verizon 
apparently is going to offer unlimited data to new iPhone customers and I 
wonder how long this will last. I would hope it would push AT&T back to 
offering the same to current and new customers. Now I do have an unlimited data 
plan, but I always felt it was unfair to introduce such crappy plans at 200Mb 
and 2Gb for those price points. Another thing that will be very interesting is 
what net neutrality will do to the cell industry and that is something brewing 
in the pipeline.
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 11, 2011, at 2:18 AM, James Mannion wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The link worked fine for me as well. I hope the IPhone does well on
>>>> Verizon and that Verizon makes more of an atempt to be customer
>>>> oriented than AT&T ever has. AT&T sees no reason to make their network
>>>> what it should be if they can have a customer based trapped and can
>>>> screw them instead of making them happy. Maybe now they will face that
>>>> glorious reality that if you treat customers like shit you don't have
>>>> them.
>>>> 
>>>> On 1/10/11, Ricardo Walker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> The link works just fine for me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296
>>>>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 11, 2011, at 1:46 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Um? not the response I expected but I'll take a look and repost. Thanks
>>>>>> for letting me know.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> S
>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2011, at 6:41 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> bad link
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2011, at 7:23 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Will this hurt or hinder apple, at&t or both? read more:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://bit.ly/fCCxOo
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