Hi there,

It's working fine here.

Chris

On Jan 31, 2011, at 7:56 AM, Brian Miller wrote:

> Hi all,
> Apologies, but I am just checking to see if my posts are getting to the
> list.  I posted a few qustions and received no responses, and usually this
> group is super responsive, so I'm wondering if my messages aren't going
> through.
> Thanks,
> Brian M
> 
> 
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> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Moore
> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 4:29 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: 13 reasons why software is not free
> 
> Riccardo,
> 
> It is quite common for types of communities to adopt nicknames or phrases
> for themselves that might not seem acceptable outside the community.  For
> example the black community have adopted the N word, the gay community have
> adopted queer or puff in the UK, and over here there are various
> descriptions used by the blind community such as blinky (I guess its because
> some blind people blink a lot), other words include gozzy, bindy, and total.
> I am sure there is a hell of a lot more out there too.
> 
> Chris 
> 
> 
> On 31 Jan 2011, at 09:17, Ricardo Walker wrote:
> 
>> Ok,
>> 
>> a bit off topic but, why on earth would you refer to your self as a blink?
> Maybe the word is just new to me not having heard it before the last year
> but,  What does it even suppose to mean?  I don't think I would like being
> called a blink.
>> 
>> JMO
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> [email protected]
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>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 11:20 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
>> 
>>> well,
>>> there is the 3 or 4 US Dollars for an app from the app store, or the
> $1,000 US price tag for software that shouldn't cost more than $100 (btw,
> that over priced software is called Jaws for windows). I know there are
> reasons for developer costs (paychecks, taxes and the like) but to charge
> such enormous prices simply because the government pays them is
> unconscionable! they price us (the blind) out of the market solely based on
> "ability to pay". one other thing I will say about freedom scientific: their
> business practices are predatory. 
>>> 
>>> now, apple has its share of bad items on the list, but accessibility
> isn't one of them. Apple realized that everyone (regardless of disability)
> needs accommodation. its why those who are like us (blinks) have speech and
> braille and why others who cannot read but otherwise can see use the
> symbology of images on the desktop (yes, there are folks like this). 
>>> 
>>> the whole point is this: sure, software is not free, but it doesn't have
> to be onerously expensive either.
>>> 
>>> -Eric
>>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:14 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> While reading on tuaw recently, I came across a link to a very good
> article, written by a developer, listing the reasons why software is not
> free. Since there is from time to time a lot of discussion regarding the
> price of software, usually involving people decrying the fact that a given
> app is not free or nearly so and somehow feeling that they are being gouged
> by developers, I thought I'd offer this link for folks to check out and
> think about. Remember, this author is not a blindness software developer.
> Everything she says in her article is common sense. But since it is coming
> from a small mainstream developer, not one developing for our small market,
> maybe it will go down easier with those of you who  post here and elsewhere
> the view that small developers working for a small market segment are
> somehow out to screw us over.
>>>> http://wildchocolate.tumblr.com/post/2943819131/13-reasons-why-softw
>>>> are-is-not-free
>>>> 
>>>> Mary
>>>> Mary Otten
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> 
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