Ben,
My serial indicates that my iphone was produced in week 27. There is no reason 
why I should have been on the new boot rom. My only guess is that my week 
number was really 72, as 2 is the number after 7. I don't know, but as I said, 
I accepted the risks when I chose to experiment. And if I don't experiment, no 
one else will. I'm not on a carrier supported by Apple, so I have nothing to 
lose either way. I've put my phone through the paces many times. So unless 
something happens to the hardware or the phone itself, I doubt my phone will 
ever truly be bricked. I can't switch to at&t because I am paying for two other 
phones as a favor to my family. T-mobile makes it easier to pay for three 
phones than at&t. I really wanted my iPhone,and I wanted to show other blind 
people who wished to do the same thing that jailbreaking is nothing to be 
scared of. I've done so, and I will continue to do so.
Rose
On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

> I'm sorry to hear that rose. I thought that the serial number method
> was pretty safe? I do know that if the 4th and 5 th digits are between
> 40 and 45 it can be hit and miss, but mine are 21. I guess at the
> least, it's an experience.
> I don't like the way that stuff that changes springboard makes the
> phone unbootable though and whilst I don't know for sure, I'm assuming
> that things like 5 icon doc will change it. Also, I don't like the
> idea of safari not working.
> To be fair, your right though, I don't think my phones ever rebooted
> randomly or because of a crash, so perhaps I'm just being paranoid.
> 
> On 31/01/2011, Rose Morales <nothingbutl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I've been using a tethered jailbreak since November. My serial indicated
>> that my 3gS had the old boot rom. In reality, it has the new one. I can't go
>> back to 4.1 because I didn't save my SHSH blobs, thinking I wouldn't need
>> them. So I'm stuck running a tethered 4.2.1. It was a mistake, but I
>> accepted the risks when I upgraded. The dev team recommended that I wait to
>> upgrade, but I wanted to experiment.
>> 
>> At any rate, when I want to reboot, all I do is put my phone in DFU mode and
>> launch a file. My phone starts rebooting. I've never had to reboot my phone
>> while out. Since writing the jb guides, I have found out more information on
>> what a tethered jb entails. I've considered making this information part of
>> jb101. At any rate, straight from this post,
>> http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/1652053923/thanksgiving-with-apple
>> in case there are some who don't feel like reading, here's the important
>> info.
>> 
>> Update #2 :  The notion of a “tethered” jailbreak is pretty new to many
>> people, so here’s a quick rundown on what to expect:
>> 1 If you’re on an iPhone3G, old-bootrom iPhone3GS, or non-MC ipt2g, life is
>> easy. redsn0w installed an untethered jailbreak and so nothing below
>> applies.
>> 2 “Tethered” does not mean you cannot boot at all without PC/Mac assistance.
>> If you have not installed any tweaks that hook into important programs like
>> SpringBoard or CommCenter, your device will actually boot. However,
>> jailbreak programs like Cydia won’t work (and Cydia may still have a white
>> icon).  Also, certain built-in apps that had to be moved by Cydia will fail
>> (Safari being the most noticeable example).
>> 3 If you’ve installed MobileSubstrate tweaks that hook into SpringBoard or
>> other important programs, your boot will actually fail (you’ll get stuck at
>> the Apple logo).  You need to use redsn0w to “Just boot tethered right now”.
>> End of excerpt.
>> 
>> For those of you who don't know what MobileSubstrate is, it's a dependency
>> of Ultrasn0w, the iPhone dev team's unlocking software for iPhones. This
>> means that you can't install Ultrasn0w without MobileSubstrate. My friend,
>> who has a locked phone, was able to boot up just fine. I myself do not, so I
>> cannot reboot without the assistance of my Mac. Most of you guys won't have
>> that problem.
>> 
>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:16 AM, James Malone wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks! Yeah, I can't say a tethered Jailbreak would exactly be fun.
>>> 
>>> On 1/31/11, Ben Mustill-Rose <bmustillr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Pdanet (The hotspot app) is pretty handy to be fair. I'm lucky that my
>>>> 3gs is old enough that it can work untethered - I don't really like
>>>> the idea of my phone rebooting for what ever reason only to find that
>>>> at best some of the apps won't work or at worst that it won't boot at
>>>> all.
>>>> 
>>>> On 30/01/2011, Sarah Alawami <marri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would
>>>>> nit
>>>>> consider jailbreaking.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> That's what I'm reading.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd
>>>>>> jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
>>>>>>> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the
>>>>>>> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
>>>>>>> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Rose, this is fantastic.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks for this resource!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be
>>>>>>>>> found
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version
>>>>>>>>> designed
>>>>>>>>> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb
>>>>>>>>> apps,
>>>>>>>>> also described in jb104.
>>>>>>>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
>>>>>>>>> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable
>>>>>>>>> jailbreak
>>>>>>>>> information.
>>>>>>>>> Hth,
>>>>>>>>> Rose
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to
>>>>>>>>>> jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a
>>>>>>>>>> shot
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a jailbreak
>>>>>>>>>> process
>>>>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an
>>>>>>>>>>> issue.
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover
>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>> seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but
>>>>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>>>> seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia.
>>>>>>>>>>> Besides,
>>>>>>>>>>> Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone
>>>>>>>>>>> suggest
>>>>>>>>>>> what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted
>>>>>>>>>>> asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev
>>>>>>>>>>> team
>>>>>>>>>>> really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
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