Ah. I don't want to unlock, not yet, not until my contract is up with  the 
phone. lol! but I have a year and a half of joy wiht my wonderful device.

Thanks.

S
On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:45 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

> Pretty sure Rose is right; I think the only way that they can find out
> is if you've flashed your baseband to the iPad one. Other than that,
> so long as you restore, you should be fine.
> 
> You'll only flash your baseband if you want to unlock.
> 
> On 31/01/2011, Sarah Alawami <marri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sorry, I think my brain is slowiing down again. As long as I what? and I
>> read the article but I don't quite understand why apple did what it did and
>> what it means. lol!
>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Rose Morales wrote:
>> 
>>> As far as I know, unless you flash your phone's baseband, you can still
>>> restore. Apple won't know a thing.
>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
>>>> and now that apple has implomented a ban something or other, I have to
>>>> dig up the article again, they might know when you jail break as you
>>>> canot restore to older OS's if you mess up or if you phone explosively
>>>> breaks.
>>>> 
>>>> S
>>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I'm sorry to hear that rose. I thought that the serial number method
>>>>> was pretty safe? I do know that if the 4th and 5 th digits are between
>>>>> 40 and 45 it can be hit and miss, but mine are 21. I guess at the
>>>>> least, it's an experience.
>>>>> I don't like the way that stuff that changes springboard makes the
>>>>> phone unbootable though and whilst I don't know for sure, I'm assuming
>>>>> that things like 5 icon doc will change it. Also, I don't like the
>>>>> idea of safari not working.
>>>>> To be fair, your right though, I don't think my phones ever rebooted
>>>>> randomly or because of a crash, so perhaps I'm just being paranoid.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 31/01/2011, Rose Morales <nothingbutl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I've been using a tethered jailbreak since November. My serial
>>>>>> indicated
>>>>>> that my 3gS had the old boot rom. In reality, it has the new one. I
>>>>>> can't go
>>>>>> back to 4.1 because I didn't save my SHSH blobs, thinking I wouldn't
>>>>>> need
>>>>>> them. So I'm stuck running a tethered 4.2.1. It was a mistake, but I
>>>>>> accepted the risks when I upgraded. The dev team recommended that I
>>>>>> wait to
>>>>>> upgrade, but I wanted to experiment.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> At any rate, when I want to reboot, all I do is put my phone in DFU
>>>>>> mode and
>>>>>> launch a file. My phone starts rebooting. I've never had to reboot my
>>>>>> phone
>>>>>> while out. Since writing the jb guides, I have found out more
>>>>>> information on
>>>>>> what a tethered jb entails. I've considered making this information
>>>>>> part of
>>>>>> jb101. At any rate, straight from this post,
>>>>>> http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/1652053923/thanksgiving-with-apple
>>>>>> in case there are some who don't feel like reading, here's the
>>>>>> important
>>>>>> info.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Update #2 :  The notion of a “tethered” jailbreak is pretty new to many
>>>>>> people, so here’s a quick rundown on what to expect:
>>>>>> 1 If you’re on an iPhone3G, old-bootrom iPhone3GS, or non-MC ipt2g,
>>>>>> life is
>>>>>> easy. redsn0w installed an untethered jailbreak and so nothing below
>>>>>> applies.
>>>>>> 2 “Tethered” does not mean you cannot boot at all without PC/Mac
>>>>>> assistance.
>>>>>> If you have not installed any tweaks that hook into important programs
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> SpringBoard or CommCenter, your device will actually boot. However,
>>>>>> jailbreak programs like Cydia won’t work (and Cydia may still have a
>>>>>> white
>>>>>> icon).  Also, certain built-in apps that had to be moved by Cydia will
>>>>>> fail
>>>>>> (Safari being the most noticeable example).
>>>>>> 3 If you’ve installed MobileSubstrate tweaks that hook into SpringBoard
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> other important programs, your boot will actually fail (you’ll get
>>>>>> stuck at
>>>>>> the Apple logo).  You need to use redsn0w to “Just boot tethered right
>>>>>> now”.
>>>>>> End of excerpt.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For those of you who don't know what MobileSubstrate is, it's a
>>>>>> dependency
>>>>>> of Ultrasn0w, the iPhone dev team's unlocking software for iPhones.
>>>>>> This
>>>>>> means that you can't install Ultrasn0w without MobileSubstrate. My
>>>>>> friend,
>>>>>> who has a locked phone, was able to boot up just fine. I myself do not,
>>>>>> so I
>>>>>> cannot reboot without the assistance of my Mac. Most of you guys won't
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> that problem.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:16 AM, James Malone wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks! Yeah, I can't say a tethered Jailbreak would exactly be fun.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 1/31/11, Ben Mustill-Rose <bmustillr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Pdanet (The hotspot app) is pretty handy to be fair. I'm lucky that
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> 3gs is old enough that it can work untethered - I don't really like
>>>>>>>> the idea of my phone rebooting for what ever reason only to find that
>>>>>>>> at best some of the apps won't work or at worst that it won't boot at
>>>>>>>> all.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 30/01/2011, Sarah Alawami <marri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> nit
>>>>>>>>> consider jailbreaking.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> That's what I'm reading.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd
>>>>>>>>>> jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the
>>>>>>>>>>> name
>>>>>>>>>>> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
>>>>>>>>>>> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rose, this is fantastic.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for this resource!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> found
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version
>>>>>>>>>>>>> designed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for jb
>>>>>>>>>>>>> apps,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> also described in jb104.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jailbreak
>>>>>>>>>>>>> information.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hth,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rose
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jailbreak
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Besides,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sighted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> team
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
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